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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6086415" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>The <strong><em>Stormwrack</em></strong> Seawolf doesn't have size advancement.</p><p></p><p>As to the hybrid form question, the "is otherwise identical to the lesser seawolf" is in regards to its "monstrous form" of a seal-headed wolf, which is identical but larger. The Lesser Seawolf's "hybrid form" of a wolf man is described separately.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, the AD&D version of the Lesser Seawolf has a claw/claw/bite routine it can use when in "wolfman" form which the Greater Seawolf lacks. If the Greater Seawolf had a hybrid form surely it would have claw attacks as well.</p><p></p><p>Finally, the 2E Greater Seawolf's description makes no mention of a hybrid form at all, but refers to a monstrous form and human form several times:</p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><em>From Monstrous Manual</em></strong></span><br /> <br /> <strong>Lycanthrope - Seawolf, Lesser</strong><br /> <strong>No. of Attacks:</strong> 1 (3)<br /> <strong>Damage/Attack:</strong> 2d4 (1-2/1-2/1-4)<br /> <br /> The monstrous form of the lesser seawolf has the 6 to 7 foot long body of a seal. The head and shoulders are those of a wolf. In human form the lesser seawolves stand 5 to 6 feet tall. All are thickly muscled and have tiny ears and long hair that covers their head and shoulders like a mane. The lesser seawolf has a hybrid form of a wolfman, a humanoid shape that retains the seawolf’s teeth, claws, and fur; statistics for this form are given in parentheses above.<br /> <br /> <strong>Combat:</strong> Lesser seawolves approach a ship in seawolf form, then change into the hybrid form and climb aboard. There they use their teeth and claws to kill their opponents.<br /> <br /> <strong>Lycanthrope - Seawolf, Greater</strong><br /> <strong>No. of Attacks:</strong> 1 or 2<br /> <strong>Damage/Attack:</strong> 3-12 or 1-2 and by weapon type<br /> <br /> The monstrous form of the greater seawolf has a 12 to 15 foot long body, but is otherwise identical to the lesser seawolf. In human form, greater seawolves stand 6 to 7 feet tall.<br /> <br /> <strong>Combat:</strong> Greater seawolves assume their human forms to get close to their opponents. The typical plan is to bite or strangle one or two deckhands, take their weapons, and begin a general assault.</td></tr></table><p></p><p>So, from the available evidence I'm pretty sure the AD&D Greater Seawolf doesn't have a hybrid form.</p><p></p><p>That said, I don't mind giving our Greater Seawolf conversion a hybrid form. It makes a great deal of difference to combat effectiveness, and will also distinguish it from the "Loup du Mer" variant of the Loup du Noir we just finished.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6086415, member: 57383"] The [B][I]Stormwrack[/I][/B] Seawolf doesn't have size advancement. As to the hybrid form question, the "is otherwise identical to the lesser seawolf" is in regards to its "monstrous form" of a seal-headed wolf, which is identical but larger. The Lesser Seawolf's "hybrid form" of a wolf man is described separately. Furthermore, the AD&D version of the Lesser Seawolf has a claw/claw/bite routine it can use when in "wolfman" form which the Greater Seawolf lacks. If the Greater Seawolf had a hybrid form surely it would have claw attacks as well. Finally, the 2E Greater Seawolf's description makes no mention of a hybrid form at all, but refers to a monstrous form and human form several times: [TABLE="class: outer_border"] [TR] [TD][SIZE=3][B][I]From Monstrous Manual[/I][/B][/SIZE] [B]Lycanthrope - Seawolf, Lesser[/B] [B]No. of Attacks:[/B] 1 (3) [B]Damage/Attack:[/B] 2d4 (1-2/1-2/1-4) The monstrous form of the lesser seawolf has the 6 to 7 foot long body of a seal. The head and shoulders are those of a wolf. In human form the lesser seawolves stand 5 to 6 feet tall. All are thickly muscled and have tiny ears and long hair that covers their head and shoulders like a mane. The lesser seawolf has a hybrid form of a wolfman, a humanoid shape that retains the seawolf’s teeth, claws, and fur; statistics for this form are given in parentheses above. [B]Combat:[/B] Lesser seawolves approach a ship in seawolf form, then change into the hybrid form and climb aboard. There they use their teeth and claws to kill their opponents. [B]Lycanthrope - Seawolf, Greater[/B] [B]No. of Attacks:[/B] 1 or 2 [B]Damage/Attack:[/B] 3-12 or 1-2 and by weapon type The monstrous form of the greater seawolf has a 12 to 15 foot long body, but is otherwise identical to the lesser seawolf. In human form, greater seawolves stand 6 to 7 feet tall. [B]Combat:[/B] Greater seawolves assume their human forms to get close to their opponents. The typical plan is to bite or strangle one or two deckhands, take their weapons, and begin a general assault.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] So, from the available evidence I'm pretty sure the AD&D Greater Seawolf doesn't have a hybrid form. That said, I don't mind giving our Greater Seawolf conversion a hybrid form. It makes a great deal of difference to combat effectiveness, and will also distinguish it from the "Loup du Mer" variant of the Loup du Noir we just finished. [/QUOTE]
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