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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5155463" data-attributes="member: 57383">I like Shade's downscaled Tendriculos for a foundation, but feel it needs a higher Charisma to power its SLAs. I'd also like to boost the Wisdom and Dexterity a bit.The original description gives it the equivalent of hypnotism, dominate, mass suggestionand read thoughts as SLAs, all 1/day. Are we making the dominate dominate person (5th) or dominate monster (9th level)? It might be easier to just make it charm monster (Sor 4) instead or in addition to dominate person.In any case, I'm thinking a Charisma at least 16 - the score a sorcerer needs to case mass suggestion. The weapon powers can be used more often than 1/day methinks.How about this:Abilities: Str 20, Dex 13, Con 18, Int 7, Wis 13, Cha 16Spell-Like Abilities: At-will - read thoughts, 3/day - hypnotism (DC14), 1/day - charm monster (DC17) or dominate person (DC18), mass suggestion (DC19). Caster level 12th, the save DCs are Charisma-based.Hmm, I'm not sure I'm all that happy with that. Perhaps we should make some or all these SLAs Supernatural powers instead, like the SRD Vampire's Dominate?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5155463, member: 57383"] I like Shade's downscaled Tendriculos for a foundation, but feel it needs a higher Charisma to power its SLAs. I'd also like to boost the Wisdom and Dexterity a bit. The original description gives it the equivalent of [I]hypnotism[/I], [I]dominate[/I], [I]mass suggestion[/I]and [I]read thoughts [/I]as SLAs, all 1/day. Are we making the dominate [I]dominate person[/I] (5th) or [I]dominate monster[/I] (9th level)? It might be easier to just make it [I]charm monster[/I] (Sor 4) instead or in addition to [I]dominate person[/I]. In any case, I'm thinking a Charisma at least 16 - the score a sorcerer needs to case [I]mass suggestion[/I]. The weapon powers can be used more often than 1/day methinks. How about this: Abilities: Str 20, Dex 13, Con 18, Int 7, Wis 13, Cha 16 Spell-Like Abilities: At-will - [I]read thoughts[/I], 3/day - [I]hypnotism [/I](DC14), 1/day - [I]charm monster [/I](DC17) or [I]dominate person [/I](DC18), [I]mass suggestion[/I] (DC19). Caster level 12th, the save DCs are Charisma-based. Hmm, I'm not sure I'm all that happy with that. Perhaps we should make some or all these SLAs Supernatural powers instead, like the SRD Vampire's Dominate? [/QUOTE]

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