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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5169205" data-attributes="member: 57383">Problematic. Get within 15 feet of one and you're in for a world of hurt from its entangling roots and six (!) 1d8+9 damage slams.Outside that distance and you can play &quot;keep away&quot; and whittle them to death with ease.I suppose Challenge Rating 4 is probable closest.According to my Dragon Magazine Archive pdf of issue 167 &quot;Clubthorn grows to a maximum height of 20'.&quot; Not 200' like you quote.[FONT=&amp;quot][/FONT] I'm guessing this is an interpretation of 20&quot; tall, but this is a 2nd edition AD&amp;D monster so I doubt it would use scale-inches. That's more of a 1E thing.Still, 20 feet doesn't seem a bad height for a Huge Clubthorn since Huge creature normally range from 16-32 feet.How about giving a typical Clubthorn a 20 to 20 foot height? Alternatively, If we are going to have them grow to 200 feet like we would need to have the Advancement go up to Colossal, maybe something like 7-10 (Huge); 12-17 (Gargantuan); 18-24 (Colossal)?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5169205, member: 57383"] Problematic. Get within 15 feet of one and you're in for a world of hurt from its entangling roots and six (!) 1d8+9 damage slams. Outside that distance and you can play "keep away" and whittle them to death with ease. I suppose Challenge Rating 4 is probable closest. According to my Dragon Magazine Archive pdf of issue 167 "Clubthorn grows to a maximum height of 20'." Not 200' like you quote.[FONT=&quot][/FONT] I'm guessing this is an interpretation of 20" tall, but this is a 2nd edition AD&D monster so I doubt it would use scale-inches. That's more of a 1E thing. Still, 20 feet doesn't seem a bad height for a Huge Clubthorn since Huge creature normally range from 16-32 feet. How about giving a typical Clubthorn a 20 to 20 foot height? Alternatively, If we are going to have them grow to 200 feet like we would need to have the Advancement go up to Colossal, maybe something like 7-10 (Huge); 12-17 (Gargantuan); 18-24 (Colossal)? [/QUOTE]

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