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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6300817" data-attributes="member: 4937">[MENTION=17106]Ahnehnois[/MENTION]: With regard to your rogue sense variant, my problem is first that it doesn't address the real problem with Trap Sense (narrow, as it applies to only a subset of traps) and secondly that its likely to lead to a bunch of finicky fiddly variation for its own sake.  Tons of situational +1 modifiers is the bane of play.  I'd far rather very slightly expand the range of things your rogue sense applied to.  For example, in my game 'rogue sense' applies to traps, and also to AC versus touch attacks made on the rogue by spells and spell-alike abilities.  For your variation, I'd probably simplify things by saying rogue sense applied to traps AND 1 additional area of your choice (my current rules being the equivalent of this with the choices Spell Sense and Trap Sense).  Some of your choices though seem a bit too good...  I think it is a 'no brainer' to choose between Dauntless, Guarded Mind and Sixth Sense, as they are clearly far more generally useful than the rest.With regard to your rogue talent variations, I think that the reverse of the problem we've been discussing is generally true.  Trap Finding is so hugely useful when it is useful, that all the variant talents pale in comparison.  I'd pretty much always choose trap finding at 1st level, and then pick up the bonus feats at higher level to taste (though probably Stand Up would be a no brainer 2nd choice).In other words, while I approve of your goals as well, most of your variation doesn't address the actual problems IMO, there is poor balance between the choices, and most of the choices amount to 'NPC only flavorings'.  There is nothing wrong with NPC only flavorings - character building is for DMs too - but I think you end up with too many of them relative to the number of choices.</blockquote>

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