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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6272984" data-attributes="member: 5143">I haven't seen anything that says 5e isn't using this technique.  Can you find a quote or something that says this?  The only thing I've seen for sure is that every class that has even been in a PHB1 from any edition would be in the PHB for D&D Next and that they were trying to avoid having "as many" splat books.However, I've also seen comments to the effect that a bunch of the optional rules they've been discussing online won't be in the PHB and will likely instead be in "some future product".  So, they are definitely leaving some stuff out in order to put in future books.Even if they are going to "publish the same way 1st-3rd editions did", I'm not sure what that even means.  Not all the classes were in the PHB in any of those editions.  Neither were all the races.  Nor all the weapons, feats, spells, or anything else really.  Each of those editions had books after the PHB that provided more options that weren't in the PHB.The 3.5e player's handbook didn't have every class that had been printed before it even.  They picked 11 classes that they felt they could fit into the PHB.  The rest they left for future books.  It even had a PHB 2. There were no Barbarians in the 2e PHB even though it was a class in 1e.  Neither were their Cavaliers.  Both were added in later books as kits.In 1e there were no specialist Wizards.  You could be a Magic-User or an Illusionist.  So, it was incomplete since it didn't contain specialists in every school.  Publishing in the tried and true method of 1e means they only need 2 subclasses of Wizard then.Half-Orcs as a race weren't in the 2e PHB either.  They added them in later books.I honestly see no difference in the way that 4e printed than any other editions.  They picked a slightly different point to split the classes and races from the first book to future books.  But choosing not to put some stuff in the PHB and leaving it for later has been a staple of every edition since the beginning.How much will be in the PHB for D&D Next?  No idea.  I think it mainly depends on the time they have to work on it, the price point of the book, what they think people will be able to tolerate being without, and so on.  However, expecting EVERYTHING to be in the PHB is a recipe for disappointment.</blockquote>

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