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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 2885900" data-attributes="member: 1656">Spectral Hand is an interesting case where you're making a melee attack from a distance... almost like a very long reach weapon.For example, if you use a Spectral Hand to deliver a Shocking Grasp to a flat-footed opponent while you're a hundred feet away, you can deal Sneak Attack damage.&nbsp; The 30 foot limitation is specifically for ranged attacks, and Spectral Hand is a melee attack, not subject to the limitation.Similarly, as long as you consider a touch-range spell delivered with a melee touch attack to be a 'melee weapon' - in other words, as long as you allow a CDG with a Shocking Grasp - there's nothing preventing a CDG with a Spectral Handed Shocking Grasp from a hundred feet away.&nbsp; The 'adjacent opponent' rule is specific to bows and crossbows.If you don't consider a Shocking Grasp to be a 'melee weapon' for the purpose of a CDG, then it won't work with or without the Spectral Hand.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 2885900, member: 1656"] Spectral Hand is an interesting case where you're making a melee attack from a distance... almost like a very long reach weapon. For example, if you use a Spectral Hand to deliver a Shocking Grasp to a flat-footed opponent while you're a hundred feet away, you can deal Sneak Attack damage. The 30 foot limitation is specifically for ranged attacks, and Spectral Hand is a melee attack, not subject to the limitation. Similarly, as long as you consider a touch-range spell delivered with a melee touch attack to be a 'melee weapon' - in other words, as long as you allow a CDG with a Shocking Grasp - there's nothing preventing a CDG with a Spectral Handed Shocking Grasp from a hundred feet away. The 'adjacent opponent' rule is specific to bows and crossbows. If you don't consider a Shocking Grasp to be a 'melee weapon' for the purpose of a CDG, then it won't work with or without the Spectral Hand. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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