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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lawmage" data-source="post: 1729510" data-attributes="member: 23434">Humm, invisibility for a Spectral Hand (one of my favorite spells, by the way...)I would say generally no.  If you have cast SH prior to casting Invis, the SH would no more become invisible than would your severed hand lying on the floor some distance away.  Since the SH is made up of your life energy, which is seperated from the rest of you by the spell, this analogy seems apt.  Likewise, if you cast Invis first and then Sh, the SH would become visible, just as would your hand were it subsequently severed.  As for casting Invis on the SH after the fact, I am not sure that would be such a good idea.  It seems to me that unless you could see invisible objects you would have a heck of a time controlling the SH and as a DM, I would impose some pretty heavy penalties to your attack rolls as a result.  Another thing to consider is that Invis for the SH is kind of pointless because the hand glows....Sure the hand itself might vanish from view but the "ghostly blue glow" would likely draw some attention...As for using the SH to make melee attacks, I would say no, both for the reasons people have already detailed and for some reasons they did not.  For instance, the SH is incorporeal and as such has very limited interaction with the corporeal world.  It can carry the "charge" of a spell, sure, but it could not carry a weapon (excepting perhaps a ghost touch weapon...)  Likewise, I would say that the incorporeal hand lacks the mass or force to actually inflict any harm or to wield a weapon.Anyway, just some comments, YMMV</blockquote>

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