Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is coming! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Speculating about the future of the D&D industry/community in a post-5E world
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Mark CMG" data-source="post: 6343784" data-attributes="member: 10479"><p>It is true that the D&D brand name is still the one that brings new players and payers into RPGing than any other. I have no doubt of that (and don't ask me for numbers). It might bring them in to D&D or PF or any number of games that people describe at the table as D&D or D&D-like, but it is their brand name that does the heavy lifting. Frankly, I doubt that will ever change either.</p><p></p><p>I also don't think the owners of the D&D brand will ever stop having an RPG in production for any significant period of time because I think that would harm the brand, which in turn would harm the licensing of the brand for all manner of things (electronic games, movies, board games, etc.).</p><p></p><p>I think it is safe to say that the RPG itself, while crucial to the continuation of the brand, is not the majority of the revenue stream for the brand. That essentially ended when they moved away from the OGL, for whatever the reasons and however you assess the fallout of that move. They coincide, no matter if you want to argue direct causality, indirect causality, or even coincidence.</p><p></p><p>Does the brand owner need to reverse that situation? I don't think they do nor do I think it matters for the larger portion of their revenue pie, nor still do I think currently wish to do so.</p><p></p><p>There may come a time when someone looks over the market and thinks that the owner of the D&D brand should also be getting the vast majority of the RPG revenue, as they seemingly were doing under 3.XE. At that point we might see something less coy than a GSL or some other bastardization of the OGL, and actually get a straight up OGL game again. Until that time, I personally don't believe we'll see the D&D brand truly dominating the RPG market again, on its own, with no real competition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark CMG, post: 6343784, member: 10479"] It is true that the D&D brand name is still the one that brings new players and payers into RPGing than any other. I have no doubt of that (and don't ask me for numbers). It might bring them in to D&D or PF or any number of games that people describe at the table as D&D or D&D-like, but it is their brand name that does the heavy lifting. Frankly, I doubt that will ever change either. I also don't think the owners of the D&D brand will ever stop having an RPG in production for any significant period of time because I think that would harm the brand, which in turn would harm the licensing of the brand for all manner of things (electronic games, movies, board games, etc.). I think it is safe to say that the RPG itself, while crucial to the continuation of the brand, is not the majority of the revenue stream for the brand. That essentially ended when they moved away from the OGL, for whatever the reasons and however you assess the fallout of that move. They coincide, no matter if you want to argue direct causality, indirect causality, or even coincidence. Does the brand owner need to reverse that situation? I don't think they do nor do I think it matters for the larger portion of their revenue pie, nor still do I think currently wish to do so. There may come a time when someone looks over the market and thinks that the owner of the D&D brand should also be getting the vast majority of the RPG revenue, as they seemingly were doing under 3.XE. At that point we might see something less coy than a GSL or some other bastardization of the OGL, and actually get a straight up OGL game again. Until that time, I personally don't believe we'll see the D&D brand truly dominating the RPG market again, on its own, with no real competition. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Speculating about the future of the D&D industry/community in a post-5E world
Top