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<blockquote data-quote="timbannock" data-source="post: 6346452" data-attributes="member: 17913"><p>Without diving into much of the conversation that's come after the OP, I'd just like to throw this in (which isn't anything really new either, but...):</p><p></p><p>My personal picks for go-to games are 4e and C&C, and C&C is rapidly being replaced by 5e, at least until such time as the bloat changes that trajectory for me. They scratch different itches, very different ones, the only real similarity being that they are include dungeons and dragons; everything else is totally different in terms of how I play and run it.</p><p></p><p>I don't see why Pathfinder can't be a good, viable 3rd in this arena, but, from both the perspective as a hobby gamer and a business, Paizo needs to make sure that Pathfinder "looks different enough" from the currently available options to stay at the top. I don't know how they can do it *if* 5e has some really well-fleshed out and well-marketed "advanced" options coming down the pipeline, but that's a big *if*, and even then, 5e has to do that stuff well. Pathfinder currently fits a very player-facing niche of lots of dials and widgets and choices that are fun (and many that aren't, too, but the sheer # of choices is a feature for many people), and I don't see that niche dissipating much over time. It's existed since very early in D&D's history.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="timbannock, post: 6346452, member: 17913"] Without diving into much of the conversation that's come after the OP, I'd just like to throw this in (which isn't anything really new either, but...): My personal picks for go-to games are 4e and C&C, and C&C is rapidly being replaced by 5e, at least until such time as the bloat changes that trajectory for me. They scratch different itches, very different ones, the only real similarity being that they are include dungeons and dragons; everything else is totally different in terms of how I play and run it. I don't see why Pathfinder can't be a good, viable 3rd in this arena, but, from both the perspective as a hobby gamer and a business, Paizo needs to make sure that Pathfinder "looks different enough" from the currently available options to stay at the top. I don't know how they can do it *if* 5e has some really well-fleshed out and well-marketed "advanced" options coming down the pipeline, but that's a big *if*, and even then, 5e has to do that stuff well. Pathfinder currently fits a very player-facing niche of lots of dials and widgets and choices that are fun (and many that aren't, too, but the sheer # of choices is a feature for many people), and I don't see that niche dissipating much over time. It's existed since very early in D&D's history. [/QUOTE]
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