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<blockquote data-quote="cavalier973" data-source="post: 7026222" data-attributes="member: 91595">Check out &quot;The Fourth Turning&quot; or the book &quot;Pendulum&quot;.This isn't supposed to be an &quot;Edition X is the superior one&quot; discussion. It's not even a &quot;here are the reasons 4e is really D&amp;D, or really does feel like D&amp;D&quot; discussion, although there has been some of that in this thread. Dungeons and Dragons 4th Edition is Dungeons and Dragons; claiming that it not is not an argument, it's just contradiction. I was just throwing out my thoughts on why someone would say that 4e &quot;felt different&quot;. I do not have a long history with D&amp;D. My first experience with it is through computer games.[Shameless Advertisement] Have you read my play through of Baldur's Gate yet? It's called &quot;The Adventures of Balan Pshaw&quot;. [/Shameless Advertisement]I would hear, on various fora, that 4e &quot;didn't have the right feel&quot;, without adequate explanation why.So, then, the question becomes &quot;what did 4e do that previous editions did not, and vice versa?&quot; The answer isnt, I think, &quot;Healing Surges&quot; and &quot;Measurement by Squares&quot;; there is something fundamental about the &quot;feel&quot; of earlier editions that 4e did not capture for some players.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="cavalier973, post: 7026222, member: 91595"] Check out "The Fourth Turning" or the book "Pendulum". This isn't supposed to be an "Edition X is the superior one" discussion. It's not even a "here are the reasons 4e is really D&D, or really does feel like D&D" discussion, although there has been some of that in this thread. Dungeons and Dragons 4th Edition is Dungeons and Dragons; claiming that it not is not an argument, it's just contradiction. I was just throwing out my thoughts on why someone would say that 4e "felt different". I do not have a long history with D&D. My first experience with it is through computer games. [Shameless Advertisement] Have you read my play through of Baldur's Gate yet? It's called "The Adventures of Balan Pshaw". [/Shameless Advertisement] I would hear, on various fora, that 4e "didn't have the right feel", without adequate explanation why. So, then, the question becomes "what did 4e do that previous editions did not, and vice versa?" The answer isnt, I think, "Healing Surges" and "Measurement by Squares"; there is something fundamental about the "feel" of earlier editions that 4e did not capture for some players. [/QUOTE]

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