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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 7026880" data-attributes="member: 82106">Sorry, it seemed to me that the gist of the assertions about 5e was that it is such a superior entre to D&amp;D than 4e was. That was what I got out of that line of discussion in general, but perhaps I've just been reading too many other posts and can't keep it all straight? I'm not sure...I wasn't attacking 5e either. I was just saying &quot;gosh, 4e seemed like a perfectly good entre to D&amp;D&quot;, but there's no way to measure how many new players there are now vs say 9 years ago. Also, I don't think that just because a game was PRIMARILY aimed at satisfying long-time D&amp;D players that this would automatically make it bad in any particular respect, such as an entry point for new players.To be perfectly honest, I don't think edition is a big factor in new player acquisition in D&amp;D. Players join games and learn the rules at play at the time they join, and then maybe they learn other versions of the game if they stick around. I doubt one or another version has made that much harder or easier.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 7026880, member: 82106"] Sorry, it seemed to me that the gist of the assertions about 5e was that it is such a superior entre to D&D than 4e was. That was what I got out of that line of discussion in general, but perhaps I've just been reading too many other posts and can't keep it all straight? I'm not sure... I wasn't attacking 5e either. I was just saying "gosh, 4e seemed like a perfectly good entre to D&D", but there's no way to measure how many new players there are now vs say 9 years ago. Also, I don't think that just because a game was PRIMARILY aimed at satisfying long-time D&D players that this would automatically make it bad in any particular respect, such as an entry point for new players. To be perfectly honest, I don't think edition is a big factor in new player acquisition in D&D. Players join games and learn the rules at play at the time they join, and then maybe they learn other versions of the game if they stick around. I doubt one or another version has made that much harder or easier. [/QUOTE]

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