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<blockquote data-quote="The Fighter-Cricket" data-source="post: 7027949" data-attributes="member: 32852"><p>Oh guys, you succesfully made me read the last seven to eight pages that suddenly were there when I came home from work. How do you keep doing that? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is (maybe sadly?) so much truth in this. We have had very many discussions about 4E, its reception, the suprisingly rude backlash against it, the Edition Wars (tm), and there were many attempts to uncover what exactly put some people off so strongly. Users talked about the rules, the design, the marketing, and every other aspect that could be linked to the hate 4E and its players got. And after all I have read in the last six years the argument that really stays (imo) is about aesthetics, presentation, and emotion. </p><p></p><p>I think in the end, what put people so strongly off, really was how people <em>felt</em> 4E symbolized. Call me crazy, but I think that it was really about the art style of the books, the illustrations, even the fonts the books featured, the formalized presentation of the powers, the general aesthetics that you really were reading a book about <em>a game</em>, a <em>rule book</em> if you will, and not "a tome wherein shall lie the magic of olde and the mystic adventure in donjons" or something like that. By breaking the fourth wall (pun intended) I think some people felt a strong adversity to this, yes, <em>game</em>. </p><p>Additionally from somewhere came the mechanically false argument that it was more of an MMO that pen and paper rpg. It was mechanically false, but it rang true to those who looked at the more colourful aesthetic that also revealed openly the wheels and cogs that kept this game running. It declared: This is a <em>game </em>you are playing. For some very vocal people that was too much.</p><p></p><p>And on the other hand I feel somewhat relieved that this whole arguing and bickering was mostly done on the internet by people who are a bit too much involved in all of this (I mean us). I really hope that those people who are happy playing 5th Edtion and watching their beloved YouTube stars playing it too never stumble upon rpg forums. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Fighter-Cricket, post: 7027949, member: 32852"] Oh guys, you succesfully made me read the last seven to eight pages that suddenly were there when I came home from work. How do you keep doing that? There is (maybe sadly?) so much truth in this. We have had very many discussions about 4E, its reception, the suprisingly rude backlash against it, the Edition Wars (tm), and there were many attempts to uncover what exactly put some people off so strongly. Users talked about the rules, the design, the marketing, and every other aspect that could be linked to the hate 4E and its players got. And after all I have read in the last six years the argument that really stays (imo) is about aesthetics, presentation, and emotion. I think in the end, what put people so strongly off, really was how people [I]felt[/I] 4E symbolized. Call me crazy, but I think that it was really about the art style of the books, the illustrations, even the fonts the books featured, the formalized presentation of the powers, the general aesthetics that you really were reading a book about [I]a game[/I], a [I]rule book[/I] if you will, and not "a tome wherein shall lie the magic of olde and the mystic adventure in donjons" or something like that. By breaking the fourth wall (pun intended) I think some people felt a strong adversity to this, yes, [I]game[/I]. Additionally from somewhere came the mechanically false argument that it was more of an MMO that pen and paper rpg. It was mechanically false, but it rang true to those who looked at the more colourful aesthetic that also revealed openly the wheels and cogs that kept this game running. It declared: This is a [I]game [/I]you are playing. For some very vocal people that was too much. And on the other hand I feel somewhat relieved that this whole arguing and bickering was mostly done on the internet by people who are a bit too much involved in all of this (I mean us). I really hope that those people who are happy playing 5th Edtion and watching their beloved YouTube stars playing it too never stumble upon rpg forums. :) [/QUOTE]
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