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<blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 7031460" data-attributes="member: 463">I love 4e, and it doesn't feel like D&amp;D at all to me. The combat system seems sui generis*, while outside combat the dramatist tone has more in common with some other games I own like Pendragon and A Song of Ice &amp; Fire RPG, or maybe some of the Unisystem games like Buffy the Vampire Slayer (a particularly close analogy given how closely 4e combat models BtVS show's combat too) and All Flesh Must Be Eaten. *At any rate it bears no resemblance to any other RPG I own except 5e D&amp;D, which uses some 'inspired by 4e' tropes.I think 4e is great for creating the kind of stories that never seem to work quite right in &quot;D&amp;D&quot; - I remember doing eg 'Horatio on the Bridge' in 4e and it was very satisfying in a way I just don't think would work in any other edition. When I've tried to do a classic &quot;D&amp;D&quot; process-sim dungeoncrawl with 4e, it sucked. Stuff that works great in every other edition falls flat in 4e, while 4e gives me dramatic experiences of a kind thatin other editions are really hard to do and scattershot at best.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="S'mon, post: 7031460, member: 463"] I love 4e, and it doesn't feel like D&D at all to me. The combat system seems sui generis*, while outside combat the dramatist tone has more in common with some other games I own like Pendragon and A Song of Ice & Fire RPG, or maybe some of the Unisystem games like Buffy the Vampire Slayer (a particularly close analogy given how closely 4e combat models BtVS show's combat too) and All Flesh Must Be Eaten. *At any rate it bears no resemblance to any other RPG I own except 5e D&D, which uses some 'inspired by 4e' tropes. I think 4e is great for creating the kind of stories that never seem to work quite right in "D&D" - I remember doing eg 'Horatio on the Bridge' in 4e and it was very satisfying in a way I just don't think would work in any other edition. When I've tried to do a classic "D&D" process-sim dungeoncrawl with 4e, it sucked. Stuff that works great in every other edition falls flat in 4e, while 4e gives me dramatic experiences of a kind that in other editions are really hard to do and scattershot at best. [/QUOTE]

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