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<blockquote data-quote="Parmandur" data-source="post: 8649859" data-attributes="member: 6780330"><p>See, this comes down to an interpretation of how WotC is utilizing the "First World" (not what it "really means" because it's just something Wyatt made up). Fizban's usage was brief, vague, and indeterminate...which allowed Wyatt to ha dwave how come Dragons work mostly the same on Greyhawk and Eberron, because Occult reasons. </p><p></p><p>The indeterminate, openended nature of the "First World" let's WotC have their cake and eat it, too: they can have brand identity qcross worlds without needing to come up with a 2E style explanation of how that works.</p><p></p><p>i don't think thst they will give that tool up by explicitly defining the "First World." I expect they will muddy waters further take it less certain how it "really" works. So, I think they will use it here, but only insofar as they did in Fizban's. </p><p></p><p>And again, the "First World" usage is conceptually different from the "First World." This material could be for a new Setting that doesn't involve the "First World" anymore than Greyhawk does.</p><p></p><p></p><p>We also didn't think Spelljammer was immenent before the Spelljammer UA. Dinosaurs are linked to the Primordials, who also underlay the Giants who are the poster boys for the whole Primordial ecosystem. They make sense in a Giant book, to provide an explanation of D&D dinosaurs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Parmandur, post: 8649859, member: 6780330"] See, this comes down to an interpretation of how WotC is utilizing the "First World" (not what it "really means" because it's just something Wyatt made up). Fizban's usage was brief, vague, and indeterminate...which allowed Wyatt to ha dwave how come Dragons work mostly the same on Greyhawk and Eberron, because Occult reasons. The indeterminate, openended nature of the "First World" let's WotC have their cake and eat it, too: they can have brand identity qcross worlds without needing to come up with a 2E style explanation of how that works. i don't think thst they will give that tool up by explicitly defining the "First World." I expect they will muddy waters further take it less certain how it "really" works. So, I think they will use it here, but only insofar as they did in Fizban's. And again, the "First World" usage is conceptually different from the "First World." This material could be for a new Setting that doesn't involve the "First World" anymore than Greyhawk does. We also didn't think Spelljammer was immenent before the Spelljammer UA. Dinosaurs are linked to the Primordials, who also underlay the Giants who are the poster boys for the whole Primordial ecosystem. They make sense in a Giant book, to provide an explanation of D&D dinosaurs. [/QUOTE]
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