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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2938789" data-attributes="member: 2011">Does it?Let's take an example:PC has AC 30 (Natural Armor 3, +3 (Mithral) Platemail for 11, +2 Large Shield for 4, +2 Dex). NPC has +20 to hit. He needs to roll a 10.On a 2 to 9, he misses because of armor or natural armor.If the PC loses his Dex, the opponent needs to roll an 8. He still always misses because of armor or natural armor.This means that although the PCs Dex makes him not get hit as often (9 or less versus 7 or less), the NPC always misses due to armor or natural armor.Never due to Dex.This is illogical. If it was not for the Dex, the NPC would hit more often. But, this is never reflected in Thanee's order. Dex never stops the attack although Dex increases the chance to miss. That's an oxymoron.Hence, putting an order in at all is really an oxymoron except at (typically low) levels where all of the possibilities can occur. Once to hits go above 10, the rational goes out the window.</blockquote>