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Spell Compendium: What are the "broken" spells?
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<blockquote data-quote="Runestar" data-source="post: 4812767" data-attributes="member: 72317"><p>But...how do you expect a fighter to get to move and still make a full attack without belt of battle? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /></p><p></p><p>It is tempting, but I won't let this thread devolve into a debate on the merits of ToB. At least not yet. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>I thought the bite of the XXX line of spells were quite obscene. Massive stat buffs which stack on top of the already good physical stats a druid gets from wildshaping.</p><p></p><p>And you can also share it with your animal companion while you are at it.</p><p></p><p>At least they had the sanity to rule that the stat boosts from the shapeshift variant were enhancement bonuses as well...</p><p></p><p>Heroics is a controversial one - I just don't like the idea of wizards getting fighter feats with a spell. Not least because it lets them access tome of battle maneuvers, and you can combine it with imbue summoning to give your summons context-specific feats such as mage slayer.</p><p></p><p>Owl's insight - insight wis bonus of 1/2 caster lv, and divine casters already have no lack of ways to augment their caster lv...</p><p></p><p>Anyspell now available to everyone, even those who did not sleep with Mystra? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/blush.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":blush:" title="Blush :blush:" data-shortname=":blush:" /></p><p></p><p>Hunter's mercy...fairly self explanatory. </p><p></p><p>Ray of stupidity - more irritating than anything else, because now, the DM can't throw foes with int scores of 3 or lower at the party. </p><p></p><p>To be fair, SC did try to balance out a number of clearly problematic spells (such as fleshshiver and quill blast). But true to 3e, they ended up creating more issues than they resolved. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Runestar, post: 4812767, member: 72317"] But...how do you expect a fighter to get to move and still make a full attack without belt of battle? :eek: It is tempting, but I won't let this thread devolve into a debate on the merits of ToB. At least not yet. :p I thought the bite of the XXX line of spells were quite obscene. Massive stat buffs which stack on top of the already good physical stats a druid gets from wildshaping. And you can also share it with your animal companion while you are at it. At least they had the sanity to rule that the stat boosts from the shapeshift variant were enhancement bonuses as well... Heroics is a controversial one - I just don't like the idea of wizards getting fighter feats with a spell. Not least because it lets them access tome of battle maneuvers, and you can combine it with imbue summoning to give your summons context-specific feats such as mage slayer. Owl's insight - insight wis bonus of 1/2 caster lv, and divine casters already have no lack of ways to augment their caster lv... Anyspell now available to everyone, even those who did not sleep with Mystra? :blush: Hunter's mercy...fairly self explanatory. Ray of stupidity - more irritating than anything else, because now, the DM can't throw foes with int scores of 3 or lower at the party. To be fair, SC did try to balance out a number of clearly problematic spells (such as fleshshiver and quill blast). But true to 3e, they ended up creating more issues than they resolved. ;) [/QUOTE]
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