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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7203887" data-attributes="member: 29398">Oh absolutely; but I still shake my head and sigh... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> [MENTION=83242]dave2008[/MENTION] this is where it comes from, trumping the PH as far as I know.  Yeah, nothing new there.  I seem to recall Sage Advice sometimes causing more headaches than it solved when it was printed in Dragon in the '80s... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I have nothing to do with AL so I get to happily avoid all that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I just prefer it when the 'official' game rules have some consistent internal logic behind them...which they mostly do (and mostly have done through the editions - even though the particular logic may have changed from edition to edition it's usually been reasonably consistent within any edition) except for sore-thumb corner cases like this...if for no other reason than one knows what to try and stay consistent with when changing things to suit oneself and-or one's table.Lanefan</blockquote>

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