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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7345960" data-attributes="member: 12731">See, that's dangerous territory all by itself. Just because the PHB designers didn't want or aimed for minmaxing, doesn't mean our players won't.I would assume that the only bonus action spells that exist in the PHB are those for which it makes sense. That's a very weak defense against a driven player.Perhaps because...you have only a static number of Sorcery Points? ...it could even be intentional that the Sorcerer class finds Quicken cheaper and cheaper as you rise in levels?That is, at fifth level 2 SP out of five is a big deal. But at fifteenth level 2 SP out of fifteen is not a big deal. But just because it works for the Sorcerer class design does not automatically mean it works for our general design.If only because a general low cost is a license to create a Wizard or Cleric with Quicken built-in. Not to mention a Sorcerer who no longer needs to spend Sorcery Points on Quicken. And in fact a Sorcerer who can bypass the general prohibition on using two metamagic effects on one and the same spell - you can't twin a quickened Hold Monster, but you could twin an accelerated custom Hold Monster.I am not saying it absolutely must be broken - it just sure looks like it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7345960, member: 12731"] See, that's dangerous territory all by itself. Just because the PHB designers didn't want or aimed for minmaxing, doesn't mean our players won't. I would assume that the only bonus action spells that exist in the PHB are those for which it [B]makes sense[/B]. That's a very weak defense against a driven player. Perhaps because ...you have only a static number of Sorcery Points? ...it could even be intentional that the Sorcerer class finds Quicken cheaper and cheaper as you rise in levels? That is, at fifth level 2 SP out of five is a big deal. But at fifteenth level 2 SP out of fifteen is not a big deal. But just because it works for the Sorcerer class design does not automatically mean it works for our general design. If only because a general low cost is a license to create a Wizard or Cleric with Quicken built-in. Not to mention a Sorcerer who no longer needs to spend Sorcery Points on Quicken. And in fact a Sorcerer who can bypass the general prohibition on using two metamagic effects on one and the same spell - you can't twin a quickened Hold Monster, but you could twin an accelerated custom Hold Monster. I am not saying it absolutely [B]must[/B] be broken - it just sure looks like it. [/QUOTE]

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