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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kreynolds" data-source="post: 235391" data-attributes="member: 2829">Fireball, a 3rd level spell, caps out at 10d6 points of damage, for a total of 60 points of damage. This spell, if indeed capped, would cap out a 80 points of damage. You really need to keep in mind that the standard damage die used to benchmark a spell is a d6, as that is the most popular die when concerning direct damage dealing spells, such as Fireball, Delayed Blast Fireball (errated to d6), Acid Orb, Lightning Bolt, Chain Lightning, etc. Taking that into consideration, a 4th level spell has a maximum damage die limit of 15 die (d6 for benchmark purposes) for a single target (maximum 90 points of damage), but this spell has too many advantages for me to give it max damage or a lower level.Also, a fireball is a 20-foot radius burst, which has the potential to affect multiple targets, and that's also the drawback to the spell because you have to be careful how you place it. This spell, however, uses a ranged touch attack, and no matter how you cut it, it's easy as hell to hit 80% - 90% of your targets with a ranged touch attack, not to mention the fact that a Fortitude save is worse than a Reflex, especially for those classes that have Evasion, or for anyone that has a Ring of Evasion, as it won't help them. So, that is quite obviously a benefit of the spell, and I never said it wasn't.So, we have higher damage die (d8 instead of the popular d6), an easier and safer delivery method, and a tougher save. Not a 3rd level spell in my book.Yeah. After going over it again, I guess a range of Long wouldn't be so bad.Don't forget about the advantages of this spell. I mentioned them above. 6th level would be fine by me, but only if the spell required a ranged attack, not a ranged touch attack, and if the damage die were smaller, such as d6.Let me take a look at it. I'll keep pondering on the spell in question too.</blockquote>

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