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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Balgus" data-source="post: 1036116" data-attributes="member: 8113">I understand this, but who ever has the perfect spell prepared at any given moment.  A clr10 only has 6/3/2/1 spells per day. The lower ones are almost useless at that level.  And so he really only 3 spells +D a day to cast effectively.  How is he able to gauge which enemy he will encounter that day, and if it is not an NPC, what is the beasts' good saves.  Taking both feats gives you +2, or 10% advantage. For a player with only 4 feats (lvl 10 human cleric) spending two of them for a measly 10% is not worth it. That is an 11 instead of 10 on a d20.  Is it really worth it?And then you come to a char with good saves.  Does that make your caster a gimp now?  Before, you can rely on your fireballs and Lbolts to do some damage from far away. Now, it's a 55% hit? I'm sorry, but for 2 feats...but of course I have not played with the char yet. maybe I will get a different impression after a couple games, but if every commoner makes the save and takes nothing... I will be quite put out...</blockquote>