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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1298024" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>Strictly by the wording, Protection from Good is <em>more</em> powerful than the others.</p><p></p><p>The other three spells reference Protection from Evil.</p><p></p><p>PfE prevents contact by Summoned creatures. Good Summoned creatures are immune to this effect.</p><p></p><p>PfG is as PfE... except Good Summoned creatures cannot touch the subject. All Summoned creatures except Good, plus Good Summoned creatures, is <em>all Summoned creatures</em>.</p><p></p><p>PfL is as PfE... except Lawful Summoned creatures cannot touch the subject. All Summoned creatures except Good, plus Lawful Summoned creatures, is... all Summoned creatures except Good, just like PfE.</p><p></p><p>Same goes for PfC - it ends up just like PfE.</p><p></p><p>They screwed up the wording horribly. PfC <em>should</em> allow contact by Lawful Summoned creatures... but that's not how they wrote it. PfC <em>shouldn't</em> allow contact by Good Summoned creatures... but it does, given how they wrote it.</p><p></p><p>They screwed up, and consequently, PfG is more powerful than the others, and PfL and PfC behave counter-intuitively.</p><p></p><p>But if you house-rule it to how it <em>should</em> have been written - actually rewriting PfE but substituting any instance of "Good" and "Evil" for the appropriate alignments, instead of "as PfE except" and screwing up the exceptions - they're all of equal power.</p><p></p><p>Regardless - <em>all four</em> spells will hedge out a Summoned Neutral creature (likean animal or elemental) even as written.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1298024, member: 1656"] Strictly by the wording, Protection from Good is [i]more[/i] powerful than the others. The other three spells reference Protection from Evil. PfE prevents contact by Summoned creatures. Good Summoned creatures are immune to this effect. PfG is as PfE... except Good Summoned creatures cannot touch the subject. All Summoned creatures except Good, plus Good Summoned creatures, is [i]all Summoned creatures[/i]. PfL is as PfE... except Lawful Summoned creatures cannot touch the subject. All Summoned creatures except Good, plus Lawful Summoned creatures, is... all Summoned creatures except Good, just like PfE. Same goes for PfC - it ends up just like PfE. They screwed up the wording horribly. PfC [i]should[/i] allow contact by Lawful Summoned creatures... but that's not how they wrote it. PfC [i]shouldn't[/i] allow contact by Good Summoned creatures... but it does, given how they wrote it. They screwed up, and consequently, PfG is more powerful than the others, and PfL and PfC behave counter-intuitively. But if you house-rule it to how it [i]should[/i] have been written - actually rewriting PfE but substituting any instance of "Good" and "Evil" for the appropriate alignments, instead of "as PfE except" and screwing up the exceptions - they're all of equal power. Regardless - [i]all four[/i] spells will hedge out a Summoned Neutral creature (likean animal or elemental) even as written. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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