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<blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 4290694" data-attributes="member: 9789">Ok - I didn't have my book in front of me and didn't realize it specifically said wizard powers.&nbsp; That actually makes it much worse, since they are going even further down the &quot;only one class needs this and it is outside their core functions entirely&quot; path.&nbsp; I'm pretty sure the wizard description doesn't mention anything about Cha being important.&nbsp; In fact, unless you were carefully pondering all of your feat choices when you were creating the character, you would probably never stat yourself to be able to take this feat - and since you can't change your stats, you're pretty much boned, unless you spend your incredibly precious attribute bonuses on a stat that does nothing but give you this feat.&nbsp; (Even the example wizards I've seen aren't stated to take this feat!)And I'm just not buying the &quot;for balance&quot; argument.&nbsp; The feat is balanced by making it a higher tier - that makes sense.&nbsp; Forcing a wizard to blow precious stat points on something completely outside their forte - that makes no sense.And yes:&nbsp; there are always house rules.&nbsp; I think &quot;Wis 15&quot; or even &quot;Int 19&quot; - or even 21 - is a much better requirement than Cha 13.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="evilbob, post: 4290694, member: 9789"] Ok - I didn't have my book in front of me and didn't realize it specifically said wizard powers. That actually makes it much worse, since they are going even further down the "only one class needs this and it is outside their core functions entirely" path. I'm pretty sure the wizard description doesn't mention anything about Cha being important. In fact, unless you were carefully pondering all of your feat choices when you were creating the character, you would probably never stat yourself to be able to take this feat - and since you can't change your stats, you're pretty much boned, unless you spend your incredibly precious attribute bonuses on a stat that does nothing but give you this feat. (Even the example wizards I've seen aren't stated to take this feat!) And I'm just not buying the "for balance" argument. The feat is balanced by making it a higher tier - that makes sense. Forcing a wizard to blow precious stat points on something completely outside their forte - that makes no sense. And yes: there are always house rules. I think "Wis 15" or even "Int 19" - or even 21 - is a much better requirement than Cha 13. [/QUOTE]

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