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<blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 6316781" data-attributes="member: 3586">Well, if it were clear, there wouldn't be several decades of confusion about it! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> However, this view does tally with this quote from the PHB (page 104): &quot;Unless combat is spell versus spell, many such attacks will happen near the end of a melee round. This is because the spell requires a relatively lengthy time to cast, generally longer as spell level increases, so high level spells may take over a full melee round to cast.&quot;I've always read that last as being due to some spells taking over a round to cast, but if is instead casting time + initiative roll showing the end, then it certainly is a major indicator of how spells work.Oh, more weirdness with the example of combat in the PHB (page 105):Surprise goes to the party and the magic-user starts casting a sleep spell (1 segment length), but in the first round of combat the orcs win initiative and spoil the magic-user's spell! Given it should commence during the surprise round, this seems very strange.Meanwhile, a cleric, having lost initiative, gets to cast silence before the illusionist's prismatic spray.Cheers!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MerricB, post: 6316781, member: 3586"] Well, if it were clear, there wouldn't be several decades of confusion about it! ;) However, this view does tally with this quote from the PHB (page 104): "Unless combat is spell versus spell, many such attacks will happen near the end of a melee round. This is because the spell requires a relatively lengthy time to cast, generally longer as spell level increases, so high level spells may take over a full melee round to cast." I've always read that last as being due to some spells taking over a round to cast, but if is instead casting time + initiative roll showing the end, then it certainly is a major indicator of how spells work. Oh, more weirdness with the example of combat in the PHB (page 105): Surprise goes to the party and the magic-user starts casting a sleep spell (1 segment length), but in the first round of combat the orcs win initiative and spoil the magic-user's spell! Given it should commence during the surprise round, this seems very strange. Meanwhile, a cleric, having lost initiative, gets to cast silence before the illusionist's prismatic spray. Cheers! [/QUOTE]

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