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<blockquote data-quote="Matthias" data-source="post: 5725556" data-attributes="member: 3625"><p>It would streamline things but I would still limit the bard to X number of compositions that he could benefit from. Otherwise there's nothing preventing a bard from crafting a composition for every combo of Perform style and Bardic Performance effect they would want to be ready to use. I would like to see different bards mechanically specializing in different Perform styles with the Bardic Performances they have learned. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I wouldn't say you could have too many unles you just went absurdly over the top for a character of the same or similar level. Without spells, bard becomes aweak wizard combined with a weak rogue who specializes in winning friends and influencing foes, no real bangbang stuff. </p><p></p><p>Bard's never had the sense of a very powerful or effective class with me. I'll confess I've never played one, never really seriously considered playing one as a PC, nor even as an NPC as a DM. But I want to be confident I could build a dangerous bard NPC if I felt the need for a hostile martial performer...orienting Bard more toward a kind of warlord type of concept will help its appeal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Matthias, post: 5725556, member: 3625"] It would streamline things but I would still limit the bard to X number of compositions that he could benefit from. Otherwise there's nothing preventing a bard from crafting a composition for every combo of Perform style and Bardic Performance effect they would want to be ready to use. I would like to see different bards mechanically specializing in different Perform styles with the Bardic Performances they have learned. I wouldn't say you could have too many unles you just went absurdly over the top for a character of the same or similar level. Without spells, bard becomes aweak wizard combined with a weak rogue who specializes in winning friends and influencing foes, no real bangbang stuff. Bard's never had the sense of a very powerful or effective class with me. I'll confess I've never played one, never really seriously considered playing one as a PC, nor even as an NPC as a DM. But I want to be confident I could build a dangerous bard NPC if I felt the need for a hostile martial performer...orienting Bard more toward a kind of warlord type of concept will help its appeal. [/QUOTE]
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