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<blockquote data-quote="jrowland" data-source="post: 6676256" data-attributes="member: 94389"><p>Thanks for agreeing! lol! In all seriousness, I said the same the thing in the portion you quoted, and I agree, it does say "can" and is clear that you "can" prepare spells or not. I was pointing that fact as well. So on that point, we agree. I think what you missed is that what is debated is not that you can choose to prepare or not to prepare a spell list (that is <em>not</em> the question, nyuk nyuk), but rather the nature of what is contained on the list. </p><p></p><p>Here is a thought experiment: A wizard loses his spellbook, so he is now "stuck" with his prepared spell list. And let's say the evil DM has a legendary Mind Flayer suck out part of his memories, including 3 spells off his prepared spell list (poor wizard). So now he actually has less spells prepared than he is allotted. But then the wizard finds a book with one spell. So he can choose to keep his prepared spells as-is with 3 spells short or he can now prepare a new list that is 2 spells short but that means preparing a list with less spells than allotted! What happened? Did the DM break any rule (we are ignoring DM rulings and focused on rules here) by "erasing" some prepared spells? Was that ok and well within DM purvey, assuming he built a "balanced" Legendary Mind Flayer with that unusual ability? Are we saying, by the rules, a DM (or adventure writer, or WOTC) can't create a monster that erases spells from the mind? So much for a 5E version of Nishru or the Arcane ooze. "Clearly" some people are saying the poor wizard can't increase his spell list by one spell because that would result in a list too short!</p><p></p><p>I still maintain the rules are silent on whether you "can prepare" a list with less than your full allotment of spells. All without "reading too much into whats written". In fact, I think its the other way around. Saying the rules are clear that you must have a spell list of your full allotment is reading too much into it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jrowland, post: 6676256, member: 94389"] Thanks for agreeing! lol! In all seriousness, I said the same the thing in the portion you quoted, and I agree, it does say "can" and is clear that you "can" prepare spells or not. I was pointing that fact as well. So on that point, we agree. I think what you missed is that what is debated is not that you can choose to prepare or not to prepare a spell list (that is [I]not[/I] the question, nyuk nyuk), but rather the nature of what is contained on the list. Here is a thought experiment: A wizard loses his spellbook, so he is now "stuck" with his prepared spell list. And let's say the evil DM has a legendary Mind Flayer suck out part of his memories, including 3 spells off his prepared spell list (poor wizard). So now he actually has less spells prepared than he is allotted. But then the wizard finds a book with one spell. So he can choose to keep his prepared spells as-is with 3 spells short or he can now prepare a new list that is 2 spells short but that means preparing a list with less spells than allotted! What happened? Did the DM break any rule (we are ignoring DM rulings and focused on rules here) by "erasing" some prepared spells? Was that ok and well within DM purvey, assuming he built a "balanced" Legendary Mind Flayer with that unusual ability? Are we saying, by the rules, a DM (or adventure writer, or WOTC) can't create a monster that erases spells from the mind? So much for a 5E version of Nishru or the Arcane ooze. "Clearly" some people are saying the poor wizard can't increase his spell list by one spell because that would result in a list too short! I still maintain the rules are silent on whether you "can prepare" a list with less than your full allotment of spells. All without "reading too much into whats written". In fact, I think its the other way around. Saying the rules are clear that you must have a spell list of your full allotment is reading too much into it. [/QUOTE]
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