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<blockquote data-quote="MerakSpielman" data-source="post: 1731939" data-attributes="member: 7464"><p>One of the things normally required for a person to speak is electrical impulses directed from the brain to the tissue in question...</p><p> </p><p>Believe me, there's no way a dead creature, however fresh, has all the bits required for speech that a alive person does. How can I know this? Because dead people DON'T TALK. </p><p> </p><p>Those of you saying that a skeliton can't talk and a fleshy corpse can are doing little more than drawing a very arbitrary line in the dirt. MAGIC can make the corpse breath and make words, but only if the vocal cords haven't decomposed? Why is that? Why can't MAGIC make a dead person talk even if they don't have vocal cords? Can you neutralize the spell by removing the tongue? Cutting the throat? Punching a few holes in the lungs? If a person died from inhaling chlorine gas, can Speak with Dead talk to him (certain important bits have been disolved, after all)?</p><p> </p><p>I find it far more reasonable, in a MAGIC world, that the spell handles all that. If the corpse in question is reasonably intact, the magic finds a way to allow it to speak. If it's a pile of bones, then the magic is doing a bit more work than if it's a freshly-dead dude.</p><p> </p><p>My major beef with SwD is that, other than the Will save, the corpse is magically bound to answer any question honestly. </p><p> </p><p>"I'll never tell you where your friend is imprisoned!" </p><p>Player makes a Diplomacy check, offers a bribe, and it all fails. </p><p>So they just kill the guy and interrogate him. If he makes his Will save, just try again until he fails.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MerakSpielman, post: 1731939, member: 7464"] One of the things normally required for a person to speak is electrical impulses directed from the brain to the tissue in question... Believe me, there's no way a dead creature, however fresh, has all the bits required for speech that a alive person does. How can I know this? Because dead people DON'T TALK. Those of you saying that a skeliton can't talk and a fleshy corpse can are doing little more than drawing a very arbitrary line in the dirt. MAGIC can make the corpse breath and make words, but only if the vocal cords haven't decomposed? Why is that? Why can't MAGIC make a dead person talk even if they don't have vocal cords? Can you neutralize the spell by removing the tongue? Cutting the throat? Punching a few holes in the lungs? If a person died from inhaling chlorine gas, can Speak with Dead talk to him (certain important bits have been disolved, after all)? I find it far more reasonable, in a MAGIC world, that the spell handles all that. If the corpse in question is reasonably intact, the magic finds a way to allow it to speak. If it's a pile of bones, then the magic is doing a bit more work than if it's a freshly-dead dude. My major beef with SwD is that, other than the Will save, the corpse is magically bound to answer any question honestly. "I'll never tell you where your friend is imprisoned!" Player makes a Diplomacy check, offers a bribe, and it all fails. So they just kill the guy and interrogate him. If he makes his Will save, just try again until he fails. [/QUOTE]
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