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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Storm Raven" data-source="post: 1791991" data-attributes="member: 307">How many CR 8 creatures in the MM have ACs over 25? Not many. Most have ACs much lower than that.Plus, you ignored the fact that your second attack is at a lower attack bonus, which makes the math very different.I think the answer is that I worked through the math.And to add those other ways requires you to invest feats, skills, and levels in something else. You have to add, for example, almost 2 points of base damage to the example falchion fighter for him to be able to draw even with the greatsword fighter, 2 points of base damage the greatsword fighter doesn't also add (since if he does, his expected damage output goes up, which puts him ahead again). Most of the ways you listed either reduce your damage overall (like Power Attack, which reduces your chance to hit at most points on the scale, except when dealing with very low AC opponents), or require sacrifices in other areas (like favored enemy damage, which requires you to take a level of Ranger, sacrifice your fighter feat progression, hit points and so on), and could easily be matched by the greatsword fighter.Any bonus you can add to the falchion wielder can be matched by the greatsword wielder in the example, and the greatsword wielder will continue to stay ahead for quite a while at most AC points.</blockquote>