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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 1793508" data-attributes="member: 224">Patryn-I know this isn't quite the place for it (being a thread on 3.0e spells), but I keep noticing your chart numbers do not agree with mine.&nbsp; In part that must be because it is using 3.0e rules.....and there seems to be some sort of monkey business with &quot;primary critical hit damage&quot;.&nbsp; My spreadsheet (excel) is simple, by design, so I can freely modify the numbers as new feats and rule chanegs come up.&nbsp; I've tested it against several other spreadsheets available on these boards, and my numbers always agree with theirs.So...I'm kinda wondering why yours and mine don't match.For example, the Ftr 15 we keep talking about (Str 30, holy flaming +2 Greatsword, weapon focus and specialization, imp. crit, no power attack) tops out at 118.8 hp of damage per round...yet your chart shows it to top out at ~140.&nbsp; That's a pretty big gap!Here's the basic numbers for this fighter, condensed:Attack: +28/+23/+18Damage:&nbsp; 26 + 10.5 &quot;extra&quot; (not multiplied by crits) damage.So far, our numbers agree perfectly.Now, have the Ftr 15 attack an AC 20....meaning he will hit on all but a 1 for all three attacks.&nbsp; Calculate his average damage per attack......=0.95 x 26 x 1.20&nbsp; &nbsp; +&nbsp;&nbsp; 0.95 x 10.5&nbsp; &nbsp; = 39.6 hp/atk....and he can attack 3 times per round:&nbsp;&nbsp; 39.6 * 3 = 118.8 ave. hp dam/round.How do you get ~140 hp?&nbsp; &nbsp; Where did one of us (possibly me?) make a mistake?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nail, post: 1793508, member: 224"] Patryn- I know this isn't quite the place for it (being a thread on 3.0e [u]spells[/u]), but I keep noticing your chart numbers do not agree with mine. In part that must be because it is using 3.0e rules.....and there seems to be some sort of monkey business with "primary critical hit damage". My spreadsheet (excel) is simple, by design, so I can freely modify the numbers as new feats and rule chanegs come up. I've tested it against several other spreadsheets available on these boards, and my numbers always agree with theirs. So...I'm kinda wondering why yours and mine don't match. For example, the Ftr 15 we keep talking about (Str 30, holy flaming +2 Greatsword, weapon focus and specialization, imp. crit, no power attack) tops out at 118.8 hp of damage per round...yet your chart shows it to top out at ~140. That's a pretty big gap! Here's the basic numbers for this fighter, condensed: Attack: +28/+23/+18 Damage: 26 + 10.5 "extra" (not multiplied by crits) damage. So far, our numbers agree perfectly. Now, have the Ftr 15 attack an AC 20....meaning he will hit on all but a 1 for all three attacks. Calculate his average damage per attack...... =0.95 x 26 x 1.20 + 0.95 x 10.5 = 39.6 hp/atk ....and he can attack 3 times per round: 39.6 * 3 = 118.8 ave. hp dam/round. How do you get ~140 hp? Where did one of us (possibly me?) make a mistake? [/QUOTE]

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