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Spell Scrolls: How Many Mystic Ciphers Are There?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 7358944" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>The poll option numbers are limited to spells in the PHB only.</p><p></p><p>Here are the rules for spell scrolls relevant to the discussion: A spell scroll bears the words of a single spell, written in a <strong>mystical cipher</strong>. If the spell is on your class’s spell list, you can read the scroll and cast its spell without providing any material components. Otherwise, the scroll is unintelligible.</p><p></p><p>My question is: what's actually written on the scroll to make that true?</p><p></p><p>At first glance it would seem that each spellcasting class has its own cipher that only it understands, but that would require spells that are on multiple classes' spell lists to be written multiple times on any spell scrolls on which they appear so that all the classes which know them could read them.</p><p></p><p>My preferred solution is that there's a cipher for each group of spells that's known by a certain combination of classes. So for example, the group of 36 spells on both the Sorcerer and Wizard spell lists are written in a single cipher known only to sorcerers and wizards. Whereas, <em>conjure fey</em> is written in its own unique cipher known only to druids and warlocks.</p><p></p><p>It could also be true that each spell has its own unique cipher and that learning each spell involves learning the cipher for that spell. But that doesn't explain why a member of a spellcasting class can read spell scrolls of spells that are on their class's spell list but which they haven't learned yet.</p><p></p><p>Let me know what you think or if you have a more elegant solution to the problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 7358944, member: 6787503"] The poll option numbers are limited to spells in the PHB only. Here are the rules for spell scrolls relevant to the discussion: A spell scroll bears the words of a single spell, written in a [B]mystical cipher[/B]. If the spell is on your class’s spell list, you can read the scroll and cast its spell without providing any material components. Otherwise, the scroll is unintelligible. My question is: what's actually written on the scroll to make that true? At first glance it would seem that each spellcasting class has its own cipher that only it understands, but that would require spells that are on multiple classes' spell lists to be written multiple times on any spell scrolls on which they appear so that all the classes which know them could read them. My preferred solution is that there's a cipher for each group of spells that's known by a certain combination of classes. So for example, the group of 36 spells on both the Sorcerer and Wizard spell lists are written in a single cipher known only to sorcerers and wizards. Whereas, [I]conjure fey[/I] is written in its own unique cipher known only to druids and warlocks. It could also be true that each spell has its own unique cipher and that learning each spell involves learning the cipher for that spell. But that doesn't explain why a member of a spellcasting class can read spell scrolls of spells that are on their class's spell list but which they haven't learned yet. Let me know what you think or if you have a more elegant solution to the problem. [/QUOTE]
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