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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 7364050" data-attributes="member: 6787503">Yeah, if I was to do this over again, I would definitely make one cipher an option on the poll. It's a valid understanding of the item description, just not one that readily occurred to me. It might be interesting to see how many who chose "other" would have voted for one cipher if it was an option, but interest in this subject seems pretty low, so it probably isn't worth starting another thread.The one-cipher interpretation seems to rest on separating the ability to read and understand the spell scroll (because the spell is on your class's list) from being able to "crack" the mystic cipher (which is then seen as not dependent on class but, in your interpretation at least, seems to be dependent on being a spellcaster). The question this raises is what the benefit is to a spellcaster of the wrong class being able to crack the code but unable to read the scroll. Why would such a thing exist?I agree, this is a good argument against there being eight mystic ciphers. But it doesn't necessarily support there being only one. Other solutions also don't require multiple ciphers on a scroll. The evidence, to my mind, for more than one mystic cipher is that a scroll of animal friendship can be read by a bard but not a warlock, and a scroll of witch bolt can be read by a warlock but not a bard. If both scrolls are written in the same cipher, then what prevents them from reading one but not the other?That ignores the suggestion that both you and the creator of the scroll know the same cipher because it is associated with the spell or group of spells you both know.But if they can decode it, they can read it, can't they? But the item description says they can't read it unless it contains a spell that appears on their class's spell list.You mean there's actual arithmetic written on the scroll, and the spellcaster has to solve an arithmetic problem to cast the spell?</blockquote>

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