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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Corsair" data-source="post: 2618506" data-attributes="member: 23477">You know Infiniti, sometimes I read these threads and what they turn into, and realize that you people have your own little game which is related to Dungeons and Dragons only because you use the same books as the rest of us.  Sometimes the useless discussions of minutae here get annoying when someone is just trying to get a question answered.I don't mind too much in this thread, since I've pretty much got the answer I wanted, but it seems to happen far to often that people don't care about the original topic, and instead feel like playing "who knows the most obscure page reference" game.</blockquote>