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Spell Turning vs Dispel Magic (targeted)
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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 1033402" data-attributes="member: 6875"><p>It depends on what, <span style="color: red"><strong>EXACTLY,</strong></span> was the target of the Dispel.</p><p></p><p>If the PC targetted the BBEG with the Dispel, then you are absolutely right -- the Dispel is Turned, before it can affect the BBEG. Spell Turning turns <strong>anything</strong> (well, spells anyway) that directly target the warded creature, before said spells canhave any effect.</p><p></p><p>If, otoh, the target was <em>the spell turnign itself</em>, then you were not correct in Turning the dispel. Spell Turning does not protect <em>itself</em>, it protects the person on whom it has been <strong>cast</strong>. Therefor, targetting the Spell Turning and <strong>only</strong> the Spell Turning should be comparatively risk-free (though, of course, that Spell Turning is ALL you can dispel with such an attempt).</p><p></p><p>Based on your comment "[...] and other wards [...]", I have to guess the Wizard targetted the BBEG, right? If so, you were absolutely correct.</p><p></p><p>In the meantime, I'm sure your player will feel at least slightly mollified if you explain the different effects of targetting the Turning vs the BBEG, though; s/he will know next time to take down the Spell Turning and THEN whack a targetted dispel on the BBEG. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pax, post: 1033402, member: 6875"] It depends on what, [color=red][b]EXACTLY,[/b][/color] was the target of the Dispel. If the PC targetted the BBEG with the Dispel, then you are absolutely right -- the Dispel is Turned, before it can affect the BBEG. Spell Turning turns [b]anything[/b] (well, spells anyway) that directly target the warded creature, before said spells canhave any effect. If, otoh, the target was [i]the spell turnign itself[/i], then you were not correct in Turning the dispel. Spell Turning does not protect [i]itself[/i], it protects the person on whom it has been [b]cast[/b]. Therefor, targetting the Spell Turning and [b]only[/b] the Spell Turning should be comparatively risk-free (though, of course, that Spell Turning is ALL you can dispel with such an attempt). Based on your comment "[...] and other wards [...]", I have to guess the Wizard targetted the BBEG, right? If so, you were absolutely correct. In the meantime, I'm sure your player will feel at least slightly mollified if you explain the different effects of targetting the Turning vs the BBEG, though; s/he will know next time to take down the Spell Turning and THEN whack a targetted dispel on the BBEG. :) [/QUOTE]
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