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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 7401877" data-attributes="member: 6669384">To clarify:&nbsp; I misquoted the volume on Rock to Mud/Mud to Rock.The volume is 2&quot; cube per level, not 2&quot; per level cube.&nbsp; I recalled though that, when asked, the Sage said that it really ment 2 1&quot; cubes per level.&nbsp; I had, at the time, no idea how what was written could be read that way.&nbsp; Still don't.To the Man in the Funny Hat:&nbsp; I included the exact cut and paste from the black cover edition.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'll quote it again.Emphasis mine.Consider even the indoor version:&nbsp; In a rule set where the standard was that one map inch represented 10 feet, and the 10x10 corridor was the dungeon standard, that spell was all but unusable indoors.&nbsp; Wherever it detonated in a region with 10 foot ceilings (again, standard for the edition), it would expand from detonation point to fill 33 10x10x10 cubes.&nbsp; So in a 30 x 40 room (12 squares), it will fill that completely then expand through open doors and passages until it had used all 33 squares.&nbsp; Firing that into just about any room, which pretty much required that you have an open door or passage, will include the party in the blast area.And that's without even considering the outdoor expansion that you disagree with.Over all I've met many people who look at the written rules and say &quot;That's wrong.&quot;.&nbsp; Not just for this spell or this edition.&nbsp; I've seen people argue that this spell can't light things on fire because the &quot;instantaneous&quot; duration isn't enough time to ignite them.&nbsp; Same argument for melting soft metals etc.&nbsp; When someone looks at the rules and says that they're wrong, my answer is always the same:&nbsp; &quot;Here's the book.&nbsp; Argue with it.&nbsp; Let me know when it changes its mind.&quot;I won't be that rude or blunt to you, but the &quot;or yards&quot; text is in there, in black and white.&nbsp; The range is in there, in black and white.&nbsp; The written rules can't be &quot;against the rules&quot;.I saw a 3.5 conversion of the Metamorphose Liquids spell (2e).&nbsp; It said 1' per level cube.&nbsp; As in, one cubic foot at 1st level, 8 cubic feet at 2nd. 27 cubic feet at 3rd level etc.&nbsp; At 20th level it's 8,000 cubic feet.By the way, a cubic foot is about seven gallons, seven pints.&nbsp; A classic &quot;Hogshead&quot; barrel is 63 gallons, or 8 cubic feet.&nbsp; So a full cask of water to wine at 2nd level.That conversion was obviously wrong, by the way.&nbsp; It was in D&amp;D Wiki, not an official source, but you can see how easy it is for someone to write up a volume so as to be completely unplayable.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 7401877, member: 6669384"] To clarify: I misquoted the volume on Rock to Mud/Mud to Rock. The volume is 2" cube per level, not 2" per level cube. I recalled though that, when asked, the Sage said that it really ment 2 1" cubes per level. I had, at the time, no idea how what was written could be read that way. Still don't. To the Man in the Funny Hat: I included the exact cut and paste from the black cover edition. I'll quote it again. Emphasis mine. Consider even the indoor version: In a rule set where the standard was that one map inch represented 10 feet, and the 10x10 corridor was the dungeon standard, that spell was all but unusable indoors. Wherever it detonated in a region with 10 foot ceilings (again, standard for the edition), it would expand from detonation point to fill 33 10x10x10 cubes. So in a 30 x 40 room (12 squares), it will fill that completely then expand through open doors and passages until it had used all 33 squares. Firing that into just about any room, which pretty much required that you have an open door or passage, will include the party in the blast area. And that's without even considering the outdoor expansion that you disagree with. Over all I've met many people who look at the written rules and say "That's wrong.". Not just for this spell or this edition. I've seen people argue that this spell can't light things on fire because the "instantaneous" duration isn't enough time to ignite them. Same argument for melting soft metals etc. When someone looks at the rules and says that they're wrong, my answer is always the same: "Here's the book. Argue with it. Let me know when it changes its mind." I won't be that rude or blunt to you, but the "or yards" text is in there, in black and white. The range is in there, in black and white. The written rules can't be "against the rules". I saw a 3.5 conversion of the Metamorphose Liquids spell (2e). It said 1' per level cube. As in, one cubic foot at 1st level, 8 cubic feet at 2nd. 27 cubic feet at 3rd level etc. At 20th level it's 8,000 cubic feet. By the way, a cubic foot is about seven gallons, seven pints. A classic "Hogshead" barrel is 63 gallons, or 8 cubic feet. So a full cask of water to wine at 2nd level. That conversion was obviously wrong, by the way. It was in D&D Wiki, not an official source, but you can see how easy it is for someone to write up a volume so as to be completely unplayable. [/QUOTE]

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