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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3258821" data-attributes="member: 1656">Actually, ranged attacks don't provoke AoOs.The Attack (Ranged) standard action provokes an AoO (PHB p141), but you're not making your ranged attack as part of the Attack (Ranged) standard action; you're making it as part of the Cast A Spell standard action.  Attacking with a ranged weapon also provokes an AoO (PHB p137)... which is why shooting a bow provokes an AoO even as part of a Full Attack action.  Since the Full Attack action does not provoke an AoO and the bowshot is not part of an Attack (Ranged) standard action, if it were not for the note on p137, the bowshot would not provoke.So if the ray is considered an attack with a ranged weapon, it provokes an AoO for that reason.  If it is not, it does not.Consider someone making a disarm attempt against an adjacent target with a whip.  He provokes only one AoO, but for two reasons - he is disarming, and he is attacking with a whip.  If he has the Improved Disarm feat, he does not provoke an AoO for disarming, but the AoO is still provoked, because he's still attacking with a whip... and the Improved Disarm feat doesn't help him there.Similarly, casting defensively prevents the AoO for casting a spell.  But if the action also involves an attack with a ranged weapon, an AoO is still provoked.Now, I don't consider an attack with even a weaponlike spell to be 'an attack with a ranged weapon' in this context... but it's a point to consider.(In addition, if a DM does consider it to be an attack with a ranged weapon, it's conceivable two separate AoOs might be provoked... because the casting AoO is provoked when the caster begins casting the spell, and until that AoO is resolved, it is not possible for the casting to be completed... and the attack does not occur until the casting is completed, so that provocation necessarily occurs subsequent to the first one...)-Hyp.</blockquote>

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