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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 4504658" data-attributes="member: 29252"><p>Hence the use of "Markets at"</p><p>And don't forget the XP cost.</p><p></p><p>At 4th level scrolls, the market is 4*7*25=700 gp - cost to create, 350 gp and 28 xp. A 4 page spell in a spellbook is 400 gp.</p><p></p><p>At 5th level, the market for a scroll is 5*9*25=1,125 - cost to create, 562.5 gp and 45 xp. Plus it multiple days (as it's over 1,000 gp in base price). Scribing a 5th level spell into a traditional spellbook costs 500 gp, and one day.</p><p></p><p>Scrolls are quadratic, spellbooks are linear. Scrolls will eventually exceed spellbooks in cost - always.</p><p></p><p>For the crazy-low costs, look at a Baccob's Blessed Book - market cost 12,500 gp (creation costs 6,250 and 500 xp), but it's got 1,000 pages worth of spells to write in, with no materials cost for the writing. That's 12.5 gp market per page, or 6.25 gp and 0.5 xp (assuming, for the moment, that invoking a spell directly from the book actually destroys the page so it can't be re-scribed later). A 1st level spell in a Baccobs Blessed Book takes only a single page - costing 12.5 gp market, 6.25 gp to craft, vs. the scroll's 25 gp market and 12.5 gp crafting cost.</p><p></p><p>There's a reason that casting from spellbooks directly is not included in the 3.5 ruleset.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack Simth, post: 4504658, member: 29252"] Hence the use of "Markets at" And don't forget the XP cost. At 4th level scrolls, the market is 4*7*25=700 gp - cost to create, 350 gp and 28 xp. A 4 page spell in a spellbook is 400 gp. At 5th level, the market for a scroll is 5*9*25=1,125 - cost to create, 562.5 gp and 45 xp. Plus it multiple days (as it's over 1,000 gp in base price). Scribing a 5th level spell into a traditional spellbook costs 500 gp, and one day. Scrolls are quadratic, spellbooks are linear. Scrolls will eventually exceed spellbooks in cost - always. For the crazy-low costs, look at a Baccob's Blessed Book - market cost 12,500 gp (creation costs 6,250 and 500 xp), but it's got 1,000 pages worth of spells to write in, with no materials cost for the writing. That's 12.5 gp market per page, or 6.25 gp and 0.5 xp (assuming, for the moment, that invoking a spell directly from the book actually destroys the page so it can't be re-scribed later). A 1st level spell in a Baccobs Blessed Book takes only a single page - costing 12.5 gp market, 6.25 gp to craft, vs. the scroll's 25 gp market and 12.5 gp crafting cost. There's a reason that casting from spellbooks directly is not included in the 3.5 ruleset. [/QUOTE]
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