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Spellcaster Prestige Classes: Balanced?
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<blockquote data-quote="haiiro" data-source="post: 625607" data-attributes="member: 1891"><p>One of my friends pointed out to me that the PHB sorcerer has no reason not to take a PrC that includes "+1 level of spellcasting class" among its abilities as soon as possible. I tend to agree with him: the sorcerer gets the worst BAB, skill points and hit die, B/B/G saves, and no special abilities whatsoever (outside of being able to have a familiar).</p><p></p><p>The wizard at least gets bonus feats and the option to take Spell Mastery, while the cleric has better BAB, HD, skill points and saves to start with, and improves his turning ability as he goes up in level.</p><p></p><p>With the Monte Cook sorcerer, there's at least some incentive to stay a sorcerer: better HD, more skill points and a better skill list. It's not a whole <em>lot</em> of incentive, but at least it's there -- taking a spellcasting PrC will probably mean trading down at least one of those three things.</p><p></p><p>I do tend to look very closely at spellcasting PrCs that offer "+1 level of spellcasting class" at every level <em>and</em> special abilities. High or sub-optimal entry requirements -- or providing spellcaster levels only every other level, or even less often -- help to balance this out, but I agree that there's a high potential for imbalance inherent in spellcasting PrCs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="haiiro, post: 625607, member: 1891"] One of my friends pointed out to me that the PHB sorcerer has no reason not to take a PrC that includes "+1 level of spellcasting class" among its abilities as soon as possible. I tend to agree with him: the sorcerer gets the worst BAB, skill points and hit die, B/B/G saves, and no special abilities whatsoever (outside of being able to have a familiar). The wizard at least gets bonus feats and the option to take Spell Mastery, while the cleric has better BAB, HD, skill points and saves to start with, and improves his turning ability as he goes up in level. With the Monte Cook sorcerer, there's at least some incentive to stay a sorcerer: better HD, more skill points and a better skill list. It's not a whole [i]lot[/i] of incentive, but at least it's there -- taking a spellcasting PrC will probably mean trading down at least one of those three things. I do tend to look very closely at spellcasting PrCs that offer "+1 level of spellcasting class" at every level [i]and[/i] special abilities. High or sub-optimal entry requirements -- or providing spellcaster levels only every other level, or even less often -- help to balance this out, but I agree that there's a high potential for imbalance inherent in spellcasting PrCs. [/QUOTE]
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