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<blockquote data-quote="VanRichten" data-source="post: 4208934" data-attributes="member: 63745">This is one of those arbitrary situations where you cannot go strictly by the book.In essence I would consider them to be any form of spontaneous caster.&nbsp; I don't think that they should be penalized on their ability to cast spells based on Verbal components simply because they are already paying enough with ECL costs.&nbsp; Include the fact that there has already been one created albeit in 3.0 it would seem easily deemable as a normal concept for such a creature.And though the creature does not casts spells verbally like most others do it could still cast spells verbally.&nbsp; There has never been any statement on what defines the Verbal aspect of a spell.&nbsp; In fact in many cases where descriptions of spells are given, most noted in the Spell Compendium, you find spells stating that the caster makes a sound that is nothing like a word.&nbsp; So it is easily possible for someone who cannot of their own power vocally form words to cast spells.&nbsp; They just do it in a different way.Because if we are to say that all casters say the same words then we are saying that a Barbaric Witch Doctor would use the same words to practice magic as a Mage raised in a rich metropolitan society.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="VanRichten, post: 4208934, member: 63745"] This is one of those arbitrary situations where you cannot go strictly by the book. In essence I would consider them to be any form of spontaneous caster. I don't think that they should be penalized on their ability to cast spells based on Verbal components simply because they are already paying enough with ECL costs. Include the fact that there has already been one created albeit in 3.0 it would seem easily deemable as a normal concept for such a creature. And though the creature does not casts spells verbally like most others do it could still cast spells verbally. There has never been any statement on what defines the Verbal aspect of a spell. In fact in many cases where descriptions of spells are given, most noted in the Spell Compendium, you find spells stating that the caster makes a sound that is nothing like a word. So it is easily possible for someone who cannot of their own power vocally form words to cast spells. They just do it in a different way. Because if we are to say that all casters say the same words then we are saying that a Barbaric Witch Doctor would use the same words to practice magic as a Mage raised in a rich metropolitan society. [/QUOTE]

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