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Spellfire Wielder feat - usable?
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<blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 138110" data-attributes="member: 1757"><p>Since I started this thread hijack: My apologies to those who want a discussion about spellfire.</p><p></p><p>To dive into the fray, however:</p><p></p><p>Archmage: Definitely not overpowered. Requires a "burn feat" (Skill Focus: Spellcraft), and you have to trade off spell slots for every ability you get in return. The advantage that a sorc has in having more spell slots to sacrifice is eroded by the entry requirement of knowing 5th- or higher-level spells from five schools.</p><p></p><p>Divine Champion & Guild Thief: OK, I haven't playtested these. But in all honesty, I see more fighters choosing butch classes like the OotBI, Weapon Master, or pretty much anything from OA (if they have access to it) over the Divine Champion. </p><p></p><p>Hierophant: This class is not the same as the archmage. It has NO SPELLCASTING PROGRESSION. Enough said.</p><p></p><p>Shadow adept: OK, I agree here, although I almost think the class <em>needs</em> to have its abilities for consistency of flavor. Moreover, having to make additional checks to counterspell and detect magic vs. pretty much every other spellcaster in the game IS a bit of drawback.</p><p></p><p>Incanatrix: I really loathe the amount of bashing this class gets on the boards. Unless you <em>really</em> love metamagic, this class gives pretty much no benefit over playing a straight wizard, AND requires the Iron Will feat. Moreover, the Incanatrix's Instant Metamagic ability was nerfed in errata to not allow metamagicking that would raise a spell's effective level above the maximum spell level that the character can cast. The Loremaster (DMG) is a substantively more powerful PrC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ruleslawyer, post: 138110, member: 1757"] Since I started this thread hijack: My apologies to those who want a discussion about spellfire. To dive into the fray, however: Archmage: Definitely not overpowered. Requires a "burn feat" (Skill Focus: Spellcraft), and you have to trade off spell slots for every ability you get in return. The advantage that a sorc has in having more spell slots to sacrifice is eroded by the entry requirement of knowing 5th- or higher-level spells from five schools. Divine Champion & Guild Thief: OK, I haven't playtested these. But in all honesty, I see more fighters choosing butch classes like the OotBI, Weapon Master, or pretty much anything from OA (if they have access to it) over the Divine Champion. Hierophant: This class is not the same as the archmage. It has NO SPELLCASTING PROGRESSION. Enough said. Shadow adept: OK, I agree here, although I almost think the class [i]needs[/i] to have its abilities for consistency of flavor. Moreover, having to make additional checks to counterspell and detect magic vs. pretty much every other spellcaster in the game IS a bit of drawback. Incanatrix: I really loathe the amount of bashing this class gets on the boards. Unless you [i]really[/i] love metamagic, this class gives pretty much no benefit over playing a straight wizard, AND requires the Iron Will feat. Moreover, the Incanatrix's Instant Metamagic ability was nerfed in errata to not allow metamagicking that would raise a spell's effective level above the maximum spell level that the character can cast. The Loremaster (DMG) is a substantively more powerful PrC. [/QUOTE]
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