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<blockquote data-quote="Ondath" data-source="post: 8722298" data-attributes="member: 7031770">To be fair, since Monster Manual's psionic monsters, 5E's approach seems to have been &quot;psionics is just a subset of magic that doesn't require any components&quot;. And while I understand how this doesn't fit the flavour psionics had in earlier editions (being a separate thing from magic and working within anti-magic fields, fulfilling the more New Age &quot;open your mind&quot; themes etc.), I'm kinda satisfied with it. I can flavour arcane magic, divine magic and psionics to be different facets of the same supernatural force, and I get a coherent system that doesn't require too much homebrewing. I was never immersed in any older version of psionics (I tried understanding the 2E system for a Dark Sun oneshot that never came to pass, and the whole separate system felt needlessly complicated), so I don't really feel the loss. Even Level Up's rendition of the psion, while thematically interesting, seems too fiddly in hindsight.I think I'm pretty happy with how psionics turned out to be in 5E. I'd maybe only ask for a new full caster class fully committed to psionics that isn't about eldritch horrors (so Aberrant Mind is a no), but beyond that I like the simplicity of how they do it now.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ondath, post: 8722298, member: 7031770"] To be fair, since Monster Manual's psionic monsters, 5E's approach seems to have been "psionics is just a subset of magic that doesn't require any components". And while I understand how this doesn't fit the flavour psionics had in earlier editions (being a separate thing from magic and working within anti-magic fields, fulfilling the more New Age "open your mind" themes etc.), I'm kinda satisfied with it. I can flavour arcane magic, divine magic and psionics to be different facets of the same supernatural force, and I get a coherent system that doesn't require too much homebrewing. I was never immersed in any older version of psionics (I tried understanding the 2E system for a Dark Sun oneshot that never came to pass, and the whole separate system felt needlessly complicated), so I don't really feel the loss. Even Level Up's rendition of the psion, while thematically interesting, seems too fiddly in hindsight. I think I'm pretty happy with how psionics turned out to be in 5E. I'd maybe only ask for a new full caster class fully committed to psionics that isn't about eldritch horrors (so Aberrant Mind is a no), but beyond that I like the simplicity of how they do it now. [/QUOTE]

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