Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Spelljammer Shows Up In The Wild - Check Out The Tables of Contents
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8724929" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>There were no paladins. The warrior classes were ranger, fighter and gladiator(which could be a new subclass). Wizards were there and the sorcerer class doesn't violate the lore at all. They would just be an innate defiler/preserver. There were clerics, templars(which fit warlock pretty well) and druids for the divine classes. Thieves(rogues) and bards existed. Bards were just thieves who used songs and tales as his tools. </p><p></p><p>Clerics, druids worked different than the default classes. Rangers worked a bit differently, using the elemental cleric for spells when they hit high enough level. But that's not all that big of a deal, since rangers have a personal spell list now, they wouldn't be like clerics anyway, so no need to change them.</p><p></p><p>I think for Dark Sun they might, since it really only affects paladin and bard, and they can make bard another kind of defiling wizard if they really want to. As an arcane caster, bards would defile or preserve anyway.</p><p></p><p>Fair enough. So this rule would be in play for the setting.</p><p></p><p>I would think it would be a background choice and have preserving feats attached to it. If you don't take it(or if you take a defiler background), plant life is harmed and you get some sort of bonus like upcasting or +1 to save DCs for your spells.</p><p></p><p>No. Dark Sun must have some sort of Psion or it's not Dark Sun. Psions were waaaaaaaay too large a part of the setting. I expect it was the lack of a psion that initiated the change from Athasspace to Doomspace.</p><p></p><p>Dark Sun dragons are not the dragons from the other setting books, and avangions are even more different.</p><p></p><p>Yeah. The single largest hurdle is the requirement for a psion to exist or cause anger among fans like they just don't want to see. The rest is easy peasy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8724929, member: 23751"] There were no paladins. The warrior classes were ranger, fighter and gladiator(which could be a new subclass). Wizards were there and the sorcerer class doesn't violate the lore at all. They would just be an innate defiler/preserver. There were clerics, templars(which fit warlock pretty well) and druids for the divine classes. Thieves(rogues) and bards existed. Bards were just thieves who used songs and tales as his tools. Clerics, druids worked different than the default classes. Rangers worked a bit differently, using the elemental cleric for spells when they hit high enough level. But that's not all that big of a deal, since rangers have a personal spell list now, they wouldn't be like clerics anyway, so no need to change them. I think for Dark Sun they might, since it really only affects paladin and bard, and they can make bard another kind of defiling wizard if they really want to. As an arcane caster, bards would defile or preserve anyway. Fair enough. So this rule would be in play for the setting. I would think it would be a background choice and have preserving feats attached to it. If you don't take it(or if you take a defiler background), plant life is harmed and you get some sort of bonus like upcasting or +1 to save DCs for your spells. No. Dark Sun must have some sort of Psion or it's not Dark Sun. Psions were waaaaaaaay too large a part of the setting. I expect it was the lack of a psion that initiated the change from Athasspace to Doomspace. Dark Sun dragons are not the dragons from the other setting books, and avangions are even more different. Yeah. The single largest hurdle is the requirement for a psion to exist or cause anger among fans like they just don't want to see. The rest is easy peasy. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Spelljammer Shows Up In The Wild - Check Out The Tables of Contents
Top