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<blockquote data-quote="doctorhook" data-source="post: 6358684" data-attributes="member: 58401">Honestly, I think the &quot;4E-ness&quot; of 5E is too often overlooked. The mechanics and design philosophy of 5E look a lot more like 4E than 3E: multiple builds per class, each with a significantly different playstyle; flat attack- and save-math across all characters; no restrictions on class/alignment combos; no penalties to race, so any race/class combo is viable; monster attacks are written more like powers than attack stats; A/E/D/U powers, albeit obscured underneath different formatting. The list goes on.(One of the only &quot;rollbacks&quot; 5E has is the lack of universally static defenses--i.e.: a target of a spell in 5E has to roll a saving throw versus a DC, rather than the attacker rolling to hit a defense score.)Overall, 5E is a lot more like 4E than 3E, except for its presentation; 5E resurrected a lot of sacred flavour-hamburgers that 4E slaughtered, and 5E is definitely written and formatted in a way more reminiscent of 1E/2E/3E than of 4E's weird blocks-of-powers layout.EDIT: I'm no fan of the decimal notation some folks have stuck with. There is no 4.0, only 4th Edition. Currently there's also no 5.0, only 5th Edition. 3.5E is dead; let's bury this dumb software-inspired nomenclature with it!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorhook, post: 6358684, member: 58401"] Honestly, I think the "4E-ness" of 5E is too often overlooked. The mechanics and design philosophy of 5E look a lot more like 4E than 3E: multiple builds per class, each with a significantly different playstyle; flat attack- and save-math across all characters; no restrictions on class/alignment combos; no penalties to race, so any race/class combo is viable; monster attacks are written more like powers than attack stats; A/E/D/U powers, albeit obscured underneath different formatting. The list goes on. (One of the only "rollbacks" 5E has is the lack of universally static defenses--i.e.: a target of a spell in 5E has to roll a saving throw versus a DC, rather than the attacker rolling to hit a defense score.) Overall, 5E is a lot more like 4E than 3E, except for its presentation; 5E resurrected a lot of sacred flavour-hamburgers that 4E slaughtered, and 5E is definitely written and formatted in a way more reminiscent of 1E/2E/3E than of 4E's weird blocks-of-powers layout. EDIT: I'm no fan of the decimal notation some folks have stuck with. There is no 4.0, only 4th Edition. Currently there's also no 5.0, only 5th Edition. 3.5E is dead; let's bury this dumb software-inspired nomenclature with it! [/QUOTE]

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