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<blockquote data-quote="Victim" data-source="post: 3242470" data-attributes="member: 78"><p>It had a range of touch in 2nd too. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Tactical position is just awesome in a game that has all kinds ranged attacks and movement effects. At the same level Stoneskin is available, a caster can also prep D-Door and use it to drop a few delaying fighter types into a flanking position on an enemy backliner. </p><p></p><p>It's not that Stoneskin is awesome, but it's valuable against certain types of enemies and as part of a layered defense. Having the DR is good if a serious attacker does get to the caster's position, or against a spam type ranged attacker.</p><p></p><p>That being said, it's not my first pick for a 4th level defensive spell.</p><p></p><p>-----------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>The value of the Strength spell depended largely on the strength scores of people in the party. Someone with a mid percentile strength is low enough not to get much extra benefit, but high enough that the spell has a good chance of pumping him to the really good bonus tiers. Similarly, someone with a lowish STR could also start getting some bonuses.</p><p></p><p>The real downside to strength was the 10 minute casting time.</p><p></p><p>In my experience though, it wasn't that widely used. 3.0 was probably the spell's greatest hour, since you could easily use the ability boosters as cheap substitutes for stat boosting items for a long time. Or expensive metamagiced buffs that were even better than the items.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Victim, post: 3242470, member: 78"] It had a range of touch in 2nd too. Tactical position is just awesome in a game that has all kinds ranged attacks and movement effects. At the same level Stoneskin is available, a caster can also prep D-Door and use it to drop a few delaying fighter types into a flanking position on an enemy backliner. It's not that Stoneskin is awesome, but it's valuable against certain types of enemies and as part of a layered defense. Having the DR is good if a serious attacker does get to the caster's position, or against a spam type ranged attacker. That being said, it's not my first pick for a 4th level defensive spell. ----------------------------------------------- The value of the Strength spell depended largely on the strength scores of people in the party. Someone with a mid percentile strength is low enough not to get much extra benefit, but high enough that the spell has a good chance of pumping him to the really good bonus tiers. Similarly, someone with a lowish STR could also start getting some bonuses. The real downside to strength was the 10 minute casting time. In my experience though, it wasn't that widely used. 3.0 was probably the spell's greatest hour, since you could easily use the ability boosters as cheap substitutes for stat boosting items for a long time. Or expensive metamagiced buffs that were even better than the items. [/QUOTE]
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