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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6196485" data-attributes="member: 2525">I absolutely disagree.&nbsp; It's way too powerful for a first level spell, and if you think it's pathetic for a 3rd level spell, perhaps you should think about other interesting ways you can use it.&nbsp; They don't suck, which is part of what bounded accuracy is all about.&nbsp; Since ACs don't increase, they can still hit more powerful creatures.&nbsp; Swarms of low level creatures are still a real threat to higher level things, so creating more low level things at a higher level is quite useful.Undead are evil.&nbsp; We've discusses that topic at length.&nbsp; You disagree with the overwhelming majority of people and tradition of the game.&nbsp; So, it's a house rule for your game, which is fine.&nbsp; But quit claiming everyone else who wants undead to be evil to be overridden for your unusual conception of them.&nbsp; It's OK for you to be an outlier on this, just don't dictate your minority view on the majority and claim they're oppressing you.&nbsp; Nobody forces you to play the game or use this rule, and &quot;undead as evil&quot; is part of this game which you are free to discard, just as many people discard alignment in general.That is the point, and it's not &quot;overzealous&quot; DMs.&nbsp; Alignment is part of the game.&nbsp; This is a game of good and evil.&nbsp; If you want to get rid of alignment for your game, do that.&nbsp; Plenty of people do.&nbsp; But accept it IS part of this game, and always has been part of this game.Get over it already.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6196485, member: 2525"] I absolutely disagree. It's way too powerful for a first level spell, and if you think it's pathetic for a 3rd level spell, perhaps you should think about other interesting ways you can use it. They don't suck, which is part of what bounded accuracy is all about. Since ACs don't increase, they can still hit more powerful creatures. Swarms of low level creatures are still a real threat to higher level things, so creating more low level things at a higher level is quite useful. Undead are evil. We've discusses that topic at length. You disagree with the overwhelming majority of people and tradition of the game. So, it's a house rule for your game, which is fine. But quit claiming everyone else who wants undead to be evil to be overridden for your unusual conception of them. It's OK for you to be an outlier on this, just don't dictate your minority view on the majority and claim they're oppressing you. Nobody forces you to play the game or use this rule, and "undead as evil" is part of this game which you are free to discard, just as many people discard alignment in general. That is the point, and it's not "overzealous" DMs. Alignment is part of the game. This is a game of good and evil. If you want to get rid of alignment for your game, do that. Plenty of people do. But accept it IS part of this game, and always has been part of this game. Get over it already. [/QUOTE]

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