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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6537817" data-attributes="member: 15700">If you're going to use a spell like conjure animals, you typically make sure you can't be a target yourself.  Or at least that seems common sense to me.  In this scenario, it was in a swamp.  I simply stayed roughly 60ft away hiding behind a tree.  Surprise really wouldn't have made much difference in the overall point.  For example, even if we didn't detect them first, all would have to do it put the wolves in between me and them, and with the rest of the party there along with the wolves, the bullywugs wouldn't be able to do much to me in order to get a concentration check to begin with.  In this case, since I was hiding behind the tree, they didn't even know I was there.  They were busy holding off wolves and the party <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Also, I would caution against simply trying to compare straight damage output of the wolves with another spell.  Conjure animals with those wolves has multiple effects, all of which are very important:8 attacks, all with advantage (pack tactics), each doing 2d4+2 damage (potential 16d4+16 damage)8 attempts to knock prone a targetSoak up to 88hp of damage that would otherwise be targeted at the partyAnd it can do all this for multiple rounds.Even if you lose concentration after the first round, I don't see any other 3rd level spell that comes close to doing all of the above.</blockquote>

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