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<blockquote data-quote="Salthorae" data-source="post: 4982800" data-attributes="member: 1095"><p>Ease off of the sarcastic attacks there yesnomu...</p><p></p><p>First of all, the point of a spell like Baleful Polymorph is to retain classic fantasy concepts like a wizard turning people into toads. If complete and utter class balance is what you're after, then go play 4E or WoW or something rather than ripping on spells that re-create classic fantasy concepts.</p><p></p><p>Secondly I should have perhaps been more specific when talking about preparing the right spells for the right times. I was talking more about spells like Silence or Glitterdust rather than Baleful Polymorph. </p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what your vehemence against Baleful Polymorph stems from... you said that you dislike it because it "removes HP as an ablative resource", yet those characters with high HP's are 9 out of 10 times also going to have high Fort saves... so they will be the most resistant to the spell anyway. And as you said, Dominate Person is much more effective against those high HP/Fort characters anyway, it too takes away HP as an ablative resource, are you going to argue that it too needs to be nerfed or have it's spell level changed? </p><p></p><p>You do also realize that Baleful Polymorph is subject to Dispel Magic and is only permanent if your character doesn't know someone who can cast Dispel Magic or Break Enchantment...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Salthorae, post: 4982800, member: 1095"] Ease off of the sarcastic attacks there yesnomu... First of all, the point of a spell like Baleful Polymorph is to retain classic fantasy concepts like a wizard turning people into toads. If complete and utter class balance is what you're after, then go play 4E or WoW or something rather than ripping on spells that re-create classic fantasy concepts. Secondly I should have perhaps been more specific when talking about preparing the right spells for the right times. I was talking more about spells like Silence or Glitterdust rather than Baleful Polymorph. I'm not sure what your vehemence against Baleful Polymorph stems from... you said that you dislike it because it "removes HP as an ablative resource", yet those characters with high HP's are 9 out of 10 times also going to have high Fort saves... so they will be the most resistant to the spell anyway. And as you said, Dominate Person is much more effective against those high HP/Fort characters anyway, it too takes away HP as an ablative resource, are you going to argue that it too needs to be nerfed or have it's spell level changed? You do also realize that Baleful Polymorph is subject to Dispel Magic and is only permanent if your character doesn't know someone who can cast Dispel Magic or Break Enchantment... [/QUOTE]
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