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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 5000777" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>Fine, a player who exceeds epic levels and ascends to becomes a god of prophecy should ideally be able to give prophecies like Apollo and if you want to allow PC medusas then there is a desire for them to be full medusas.</p><p></p><p>I think the relevant focus for our discussion though is on ubiquitous save or die PC spells (things that can be prepared every day by core class human PCs). Pathfinder changes a lot to save each round or save or take a lot of damage. A few are still there though as save or die.</p><p></p><p>So what are the arguments saying a PC baleful polymorph that can bypass hp and magically one shot a BBEG on a failed save is good for the game?</p><p></p><p>Some have said in their experience this has been great when it happens, everyone cheered and there was cake. </p><p></p><p>A contrary viewpoint is that it is anticlimatic for BBEG scenes and puts the save or die casters as the bigshots of the party in terms of power and dramatic effects in combat while marginalizing others as support until the caster gets off their one combat ending spell and their role as handling the scruff so the casters can save the big guns for the important fights.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 5000777, member: 2209"] Fine, a player who exceeds epic levels and ascends to becomes a god of prophecy should ideally be able to give prophecies like Apollo and if you want to allow PC medusas then there is a desire for them to be full medusas. I think the relevant focus for our discussion though is on ubiquitous save or die PC spells (things that can be prepared every day by core class human PCs). Pathfinder changes a lot to save each round or save or take a lot of damage. A few are still there though as save or die. So what are the arguments saying a PC baleful polymorph that can bypass hp and magically one shot a BBEG on a failed save is good for the game? Some have said in their experience this has been great when it happens, everyone cheered and there was cake. A contrary viewpoint is that it is anticlimatic for BBEG scenes and puts the save or die casters as the bigshots of the party in terms of power and dramatic effects in combat while marginalizing others as support until the caster gets off their one combat ending spell and their role as handling the scruff so the casters can save the big guns for the important fights. [/QUOTE]
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