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<blockquote data-quote="airwalkrr" data-source="post: 3069501" data-attributes="member: 12460">My interpretation is that a spellcaster gets a save, even if the spell is not targetted on them, just as I rule anyone in the area of a spell gets a save unless they voluntarily fail (like most characters do with magic circle against evil). With that in mind, silence allows a Will save. Any creature entering the area or being interrupted by having silence cast on them within the area can make a save to avoid the effect. With that in mind, targetting a spellcaster with a Will save is anything but an automatic counterspell against spells with verbal components.In my opinion, silence was designed to be used as a utility spell, not a counterspell. The reminder that spellcasters cannot cast while in the area only applies to those who fail their save and consequently this is usually only those who want to be silent and voluntarily fail. It was only meant to remind PCs that you cannot cast spells silently while sneaking up on someone with this spell (you need zone of silence for that).While it does serve as a handy substitute for Move Silently, there are drawbacks. Namely that it is a 2nd level spell and a good rogue can Move Silently all day long.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="airwalkrr, post: 3069501, member: 12460"] My interpretation is that a spellcaster gets a save, even if the spell is not targetted on them, just as I rule anyone in the area of a spell gets a save unless they voluntarily fail (like most characters do with magic circle against evil). With that in mind, silence allows a Will save. Any creature entering the area or being interrupted by having silence cast on them within the area can make a save to avoid the effect. With that in mind, targetting a spellcaster with a Will save is anything but an automatic counterspell against spells with verbal components. In my opinion, silence was designed to be used as a utility spell, not a counterspell. The reminder that spellcasters cannot cast while in the area only applies to those who fail their save and consequently this is usually only those who want to be silent and voluntarily fail. It was only meant to remind PCs that you cannot cast spells silently while sneaking up on someone with this spell (you need zone of silence for that). While it does serve as a handy substitute for Move Silently, there are drawbacks. Namely that it is a 2nd level spell and a good rogue can Move Silently all day long. [/QUOTE]

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