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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Archibald Theocliste" data-source="post: 1921908" data-attributes="member: 3808">I recently used a Rattelyr Dragon in a game for lvl 10 characters. A dragon from Shining South that is unable to fly. I wanted him to use alter self to turn into a flying dragon, if possible one with an opposite weakness (they're from the Fire subtype). Alas even if they're small for a dragon (an adult is still size Large) I was unable to find a dragon both able to fly, with less than 5 HD and no more than medium sized. I find Alter Self usually not very usefull for dragons unless they're really young since you can't turn into a creature of more than 5 HD and more than one category size away from you.On the other hand, he toyed with both the fighter and the archer thanks to mage armor and shield, +8 AC to a dragon severely diminish the fighting capabilities of a party. The only drawback is that their spellcasting level is usually not very high (=easy dispell), but as someone mentionned in another thread you can compensate with Practiced Spellcaster.Another very nice feats for a close combat oriented dragon are Improved Toughness and Large and in Charge (I say you won't come closer boy !) instead of Weapon Focus (Claw) and (Bite) that I find totally useless with such a high BAB, even if you power attack a lot. Also even if it is said that dragons usually don't like to grapple, you can't imagine how funny is is to grab someone (archers are perfect targets for a grapple ^^) then look at that menacing spellcaster and say "Well, weren't you about to cast another Lightning Bolt ? I sure hope you're good at aiming !"  Then if you're really evil you can release the grapple on your next action, full attack your victim and restart a grapple with your last attack ^^, but that would be really evil <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> Even more evil would be that even if your attacks kill your victim, grab him with your last action and say "Hmmmm... I think he's still breathing. Aren't you supposed to save him ?" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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