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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DonTadow" data-source="post: 3505347" data-attributes="member: 22622">How does a musical fit into a superhero story.  I"ve never seen a superman that has him chasing down non-plot storylines.  This was badly out of place, especially how mary jane sings two songs. One badly on purpose. Why are we subjected to that.  Thiscould have easily been written out and she referred to it in a newspaper article the next day.  A bit? Venom was in 20 minutes of the movie.  Eddie Brock wanted revenge from the venom but because things wer eso rushed, we don't get to know that the suit has thoughts of its own. Because they decided not to develop venom, it left a lot of people wondering what that black thing was.  And this is where we disagree. Doc conners said that the suit was sentient. So which is it. Is the suit sentient or not.  Who cares lets steel some more special effects from the Mummy. Outside of the batman movies, where has such crazy, unexplained coincidences happened.  The previous spidermans did a lot to explain, even if its star trek science, how the powers were gained. Here we get a suit on a magical meteor, an important, dangerous science experiment guarded by a six foot gate, scientists doing an experiment and don't get alarmed that a 200 lbs bird just flew into their experiment and someone going into a church in the middle of the day to ask god to kill someone.  Take the spiderman name off of this movie and I guarantee it lands in your top 10, I think the name and pretty graphics  is causing you to stretch and reach for answers for an inexplicable laughable plot. I think you missed my point entirely.  Spiderman never had a problem taking the suit off the entire movie.  PLus spiderman has no knowledge of it being vunerable to sound.  This is one of the many places that the writers got lazy. Doc Conners could have easily said, hey pete, this thing doesnt seem to like loud noises.  That would have taken one line and been more plausible than............ How many buildings in new york. millions probably.  He happens to be on a church. And not just a church but one with a bell. but a bell that he clumsily hits. A bell no one is alarmed at for ringing at an odd hour. And the only person whom heres Peter parker over the loud bell is his rival eddie brock whom just happens to be there, praying for his death... in that church.. where there are thousands at in new york.  That has a bell.    No my main complaint is that both of the other movies pullled as much from the comics as possible. This movie seemed to make things up as it went, rewrite whatever history that either the comic or its own movie history made for the sake of needing a plot device.  Rewriting ben's death, that really takes away from the first movie and spidey's motivations.  I suggest you watch the first two movies and compare the plot to this one.  HOw many 'absurd coincidences can you find'.  Again, not a fanboy, actually hate spiderman becauase hes such a quitter and marvels universe is not something I enjoy. But of course yo uresult to name calling because you are listing every coincidence in this movie and probably thinking "gee it is a lot of stupid stuff".   I"m talking solely about the movies history.  For 3 movies the green goblin has hated peter. For mos 120 minutes in this movie the green goblin (harry) has been trying to kill peter.  15 minutes ago, peter parker burned off half of the green goblins face. Now, just take these motivations, and this is within this movie. Why on earth is the green goblin helping out spider man. WAs it because of the convenient memory regain of the butler.  Where the heck did Harry's father, whom is haunting him go. And what about the effects of the syrum, that was said in the first one to be the cause of the delusions and the craziness.   Watch the movie again, all but once when venom speaks, He takes the venom mask off.  I don't walk the fence., kinda, a bit. Those are words you use when you can't make a stance. Thsi was two movies that they crammed into 1.5 hours and ruined because of it.  It took ten years, but batman and robin finally ha a companion.  I just wanted a good movie.  Sandman was a far more compelling villian in this movie than the roll d100 random venom encounter.  Of course, my opinion depends on why you go to the movie. I like a good plot. The special effects are secondary and are only interesting if the plot moves into them well, which didn't happen here. I have a high-end graphics card in my computer, I can get all the pretty CGI I want on any countless number of games.  I like a movie to give me a good that makes me enjoy the protagnist and hate the antagonist. Not laugh anytime either comes on the screen.</blockquote>

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