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<blockquote data-quote="Rackhir" data-source="post: 3820537" data-attributes="member: 149">Not quite in practice. We have a character who uses one in Shilsen's campaign and while he has been effective, it's not a &quot;You just win.&quot;. For one thing most monsters are stronger than PCs. Many are much larger. Many are 4 legged. All of this means that many times monsters are either untripable or very difficult to trip and remember a failed trip attempt means they have a chance of pulling the spiked chain away from the character. Tripping is a stat check rather than something skill or BAB based, so the modifiers are usually not large compared to the results of the d20 roll. Which means that almost any target can with a decent roll beat the tripper. The character in our group who uses one has in fact had to carry around several spiked chain specifically for this reason.It is not the uber weapon people like to think it is. It sounds better in theory than it is in practice.A lot of these supposed &quot;uber builds&quot; also require a large number of feats to boot.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rackhir, post: 3820537, member: 149"] Not quite in practice. We have a character who uses one in Shilsen's campaign and while he has been effective, it's not a "You just win.". For one thing most monsters are stronger than PCs. Many are much larger. Many are 4 legged. All of this means that many times monsters are either untripable or very difficult to trip and remember a failed trip attempt means they have a chance of pulling the spiked chain away from the character. Tripping is a stat check rather than something skill or BAB based, so the modifiers are usually not large compared to the results of the d20 roll. Which means that almost any target can with a decent roll beat the tripper. The character in our group who uses one has in fact had to carry around several spiked chain specifically for this reason. It is not the uber weapon people like to think it is. It sounds better in theory than it is in practice. A lot of these supposed "uber builds" also require a large number of feats to boot. [/QUOTE]

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